Group A and B in the CL are a joke?

You can't take any team in the Champions League lightly. I notice that you have failed to mention Manchester United's seemingly 'easy' group.

I take it you haven't seen Man Uniteds group then.

Also Group A is fine.... Porto won it 04 and won the EL in 2011 and are always doing well in Europe, same with Kiev to an extent they always go far.

PS. Montpellier are the French champions and one of the harder pot 4 teams.

Arsenal and United got easier groups than City and Chelsea

but atleast City and Chelsea will play some good teams

I mean that's what football is all about,Right?

wtf are u talking about? arsenals group is tougher than man uniteds

and no it's not a joke. porto and psg are capable of going further if they get through the group stage. what i find is a joke is united didn't even qualify through* the group stage last season and because they couldn't, any group would be seen as hard for them.

so because group A and B don't have the "group of death", it is deemed a joke then?

Mediocre.

Lets not forget the absolute walk in the park Man United got.

People may argue our group is a joke too but I am not taking it lightly we need to EARN our points in that group Galatasary is not easy TRUST ME

what's wrong. I see no problem. MAN UTD!!

I don't get it?