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Why do so many baseball fans believe in the myth that stealing bases leads to more run scoring?

Update:

Only Tom has it right so far.

The rest of you tell me unprovable stories.

You will have to do better than that and calling me names is doubly unacceptable.

Where is your proof? Quote a study or a reputable source of any kind.

Update 2:

Only Tom has it right so far.

The rest of you tell me unprovable stories.

You will have to do better than that and calling me names is doubly unacceptable.

Where is your proof? Quote a study or a reputable source of any kind.

Update 3:

Only Tom has it right so far.

The rest of you tell me unprovable stories.

You will have to do better than that and calling me names is doubly unacceptable.

Where is your proof? Quote a study or a reputable source of any kind.

Update 4:

Only Tom has it right so far.

The rest of you tell me unprovable stories.

You will have to do better than that and calling me names is doubly unacceptable.

Where is your proof? Quote a study or a reputable source of any kind.

Update 5:

OK Blu. So you say. Now find a quotable and reputable source that states unequivocally that base stealing is worth more than maybe 1% of all runs scored and gives a study that conclusively makes the case for saying it..

You Can't do it

As for tom, he correctly identified what does increase runs.

Update 6:

Blu. That is just you saying it. Not proof of anything

Quote a source.. The object of the game is to win, not steal braces..

You still haven't demonstrated proof. It is all hearsay. Take a look at the latest answer. A much better answer than yours.

Update 7:

By the last one I meant the one by 18 Gret 20

Update 8:

By the last one I meant the one by 18 Gret 20

Update 9:

Its 18 Gibbs 20. This time I nailed it. My apologies to 18 Gibb 20

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  • 9 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    Because they only look at the successful side of it. They fail to realize it's not equivalently positive and negative when comparing safe vs. out. It's a small increase to run scoring opportunity when successful because you advance a base. It's a tremendous decrease in scoring when thrown out because A) the man is no longer on base and B) you have used up one of your three outs.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    It's all about the stolen base/caught stealing ratio. Successful base stealing increases the chances for runs, caught stealing harms the chances.

    Starting the runner can avoid double plays and lead to extra bases.

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    What do you mean proof? People give you facts. Would you expect proof the sun rises in the east? Everything in my answer is fact.

    Where's your proof stealing bases leads to runs is a myth?

    Why the bad attitude? We're trying to help you. Slow down on the alcohol consumption.

    You must be high because stealing bases NEVER hurts the offense. Have you played the game? The idea is to safely circle the bases at which point a run scores. Most runs wins the game. OBVIOUSLY, whenever a team advances bases it increases the chances to score.

    Tom gave you an answer that didn't discuss stolen bases. I try to stick to the topic.

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    How can you not hear your self? Advancing bases is the objective of the game. Every runner is better positioned to score the further advanced they are on the bases. I dying to hear you debate that's not true.

    You're the manager ... would you rather have your runner on 1st or 2nd base?

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    You're the manager, would you rather have your runner on 1st or 2nd? Answer this q and I will have the proof you seek.

  • 9 years ago

    Stealing definatly contributes to the game. It's all about playing the odds. A guy on second scores on a base knock. If he's on first and you get that same base knock he might not even make it to third depending where it is. There's a reason it's called scoring position, and stealing to get there is part of the game for a reason. Because it helps. You can;t win 100% by stealing bases, but it can definatly change the game if you have a good running team.

  • 9 years ago

    According to this article:

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?arti...

    A 'succesful' stolen base does indeed improve the likelihood of scoring a run. According to their research, a player on first with no outs is worth .9116 runs; if he's able to steal second, then he is now 'worth' 1.1811 runs.

    There's a lot of complicated math stuff, but, yeah. That's what it's saying- stealing successfully does indeed increase the likelihood of a run being scored.

    It ALSO mentions that stealing bases is only worth it if you have a 75% stealing percentage or better, because being CAUGHT stealing decreases the odds of a run being scored so much.

    This article:

    http://research.sabr.org/journals/maury-wills

    Focuses on Maury Wills. According to their research, they figure that, in the years 1962, 1963 and 1965 combined, Maury Wills added a net total of 35 runs by stealing bases for the Dodgers. But again, Wills had very high stolen base percentages that year.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    Why is that a myth? It can lead to more runs scoring. If a runner on 1B steals 2B, then he is in scoring position and has a better chance of scoring. Home runs are what is going to produce the most runs, but for teams that don't have a lot of power stealing bases can lead to more runs.

  • MFFL
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    That's definetely a myth. You can easily score a run, without getting a hit, if you steal a base. The lead-off guy draws a walk, steals second. Then the 2nd hiterr, hits a groundball to 2nd, moving the runner to third. Now, with just one out, the third hitter his a deep fly ball, the runner will tag and score.

  • 4 years ago

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    its not a myth... it not only increases the chances of scoring more runs, if the runner steal 2nd it eliminates the double play possibility from the play.

  • 9 years ago

    it isn't a myth it's a fact. The closer the runs to home the better chance they have of scoring

  • ?
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    Good power (such as hitting home runs), hitting, plate discipline, speed, pitching, and fielding are what help win ball games.

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