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Jen
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Jen asked in PetsDogs · 9 years ago

Designer Breeds ... do you approve?

What is your opinion on designer breeds?

Now, before the breed purists get going on how they are "just mutt's" I'd like to point out that I'm asking because today I spent the day at Cynosports in Denver watching agility, flyball, dock diving, frisbee and police dog demonstration. While there, I saw a lot of purebred dogs but found that a few of the dogs I was MOST impressed with based on athletic ability and temperment were designer dogs.

So if you're against designer breeds, explain to me how it's any different to breed two dogs of different breeds, that both have desireable traits you want to pass onto puppies is any less of a crap shoot than breeding two dogs of the same breed together?

I know someone will assume that people just do this for profit or that they certainly couldn't be doing all the testing and proving by showing that pure breed breeders do, but this is not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing breeders taking two dogs that have known backgrounds, proving them in performance, getting hips, eyes and everything else tested and breeding for specific outcomes and achieving that.

So, do people think this is right, or is it wrong?

(I've got my armour on, take your shot lol!)

Update:

The dogs I saw are used in competition by the breeders themselves. These breeders aren't breeding to sell dogs, they're breeding to produce superior sport dogs for their personal use. Yes, they wind up with a few more pups than needed out of litters and will sell them to well suited homes, but ... don't hunting/herding/working dog breeders do the same thing? Take proven dogs, breed for themselves and sell off the extra pups? What most impressed me about the breeders is performance records on the dogs. Their dogs are out getting title after title in agility, flyball, yada yada. That to me says more than a Ch. title from the AKC.

Update 2:

I use the term "designer dogs" because that seems to be the pop culture terminology and seems to get people's goat.. If mixed breed settles better with you, replace "designer dogs" with mixed breed.

I'm AMAZED at the lack of vision and understand with some people. Truly - don't you all realize that there are very few breeds of dog today that humans haven't manipulated to where they are and that most of our modern breeds started with a vision and a lot of mixing purebreds to develop them?

That said, I also see a lot of assumptions. I won't say everyone out trying to breed better sports dogs are going about it with the best of intentions, (neither are all the people out there breeding purebreds) but that doesn't mean that every breeder mixing breeds has bad intentions or is just doing it for the money. Some have a real vision and plan ... just like Louis Dobermann and the developers of many of our modern breeds did.

Also, I've foun

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago
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    I think designer dogs get a bad rap due to back yard breeders and puppy mills. I am a designer breed owner and am sick to death of people on this website going on and on about how bad it is. I love animals and start a vet nursing course in a few months but chose a designer dog that suited my lifestyle and family, I did a lot of research and brought from a good breeder, both parents are kc registered pedigree dogs who had been health screened. I think people should get a life dogs are dogs whether they be mutt or purebred they all deserve to be loved.

    Source(s): Dog lover
  • 9 years ago

    What did you see? Staffie Borders? Border Border? Border Jacks? These are very popular for flyball and I've been seeing a few Border Jacks in agility.

    I know someone who went all the went to CA to purchase a Staffie Border and you know what? It looks like any random pitbull that I can find roaming the streets in the Bronx or at the local city shelter.

    My concern, about breeding a specific type of mix for a specific sport is what happens to the pups who are not cut out to be performance dogs? What kind of homes can handle these dogs? I can even imagine trying to live with a Border Jack.

    In the end a Border Jack or Staffie Border is a "designer"mixbreed, same as a labradoodle or puggle, they are just geared towards a different type of person who thinks they are getting a faster dog, so they can be more competitive in certain heigh divisions, rather than being promoted to the "pet" people.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    9 years ago

    Most "Designer Dog" Breeders, breed only for profit. The majority of Breeders who bred mixes/mutts AKA designer dog breeders. They don't give a sh!t on the the health, Temperament & genetics of the B'tch or Stud dog,& the only goal is to get money. Many times these breeders will keeping breeding dogs until there ***** is incapable of breeding & producing pups.

    Mutts can excel at sports, but that doesn't necessarily mean that should be bred, or that they were properly bred.

    Breeding Designer Dogs(Mutts/Mixes), that have desired traits,a sound & stable genetics & temperament,& certain purpose(Breeding a Dutch Shepherd With A Malinois, for working purpose).

  • ?
    Lv 5
    9 years ago

    if the breeder is having the dogs health tested for the herdatory health problems in both/all breeds in the mix, they are breeding for a real purpose (not just money), treat there dogs well and vet puppy buyers to make sure they get good homes, Offer advice and are truthfull with the buyers (eg saying they cant garentiee the pup wont shed or who it will look ect) and are willin got take the pup/dog back at any age if needed then i have no problem with cross breeding, just that i dont agree with purebreed breeders who dont do the above.

    However the majority of cross breed breeders arnt doing the above sadly and are just breeding them for the money and lieing to people about what to expect fomr there puppy, doing no health testing and once they get the money dont want to know anymore, Very few ive seen are doing that.

    Weather purebreed or crossbreed all dogs should be responsibly bred.

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  • 9 years ago

    It's because the dogs that you were most impressed with were BRED by the mutt breeders trying to MAKE you impressed so that mutt buying people will spend their hard earned money on that mutt. There are mutt making BYB's, and then there are the ones who are out to impress so that they can sell their mutt pus for $2500.00. I'll bet you a dime to a donut that if you took the average PET purebred Lab owner and did all this stuff, that dog could do the same if they really tried to and worked on it as long as the mutt breeders do. But then, the average PET owner of a purebred dog doesn't want to breed them, do they? Not if they have any common sense. They want a family PET, that maybe can retrieve if they hunt, but do NOT want to make money off of them.

    It is all about money, honey, and you don't get that.

    Glad to hear that you had the experience you had, so what will be your next dog, if I may ask, OR are you planning on a mutt breeding?

    I'm also NOT a purist, as you happened to mention. I use to breed Dobermans, and I've owned plenty of mutts, and own one right now.

  • 9 years ago

    My opinion on designer breeds in general: I think it is stupid and selfish for breeders to create puppies and try and create the newest fad and sell the puppies for thousands of dollars. Enough dogs are killed every year because of all the excess breeding.

    And just because a breeder only breeds purebred dogs, does not make them a good or reputable breeder. My opinion on backyard breeders who breed purebreds is about the same as the answer given on designer breeders.

    I am not a breed purist at all. I love mutts just as much as purebred dogs. I have a mutt, mixed with shiba and I don't know what else. It is the people who breed senselessly that I have a problem with.

    Do you know for a fact that the mixed breeds you saw performing were all bred from parents who were genetically tested, etc? Did you see actual proof, as in the test results and the pedigrees of the parents, since the dog itself won't be able to be registered? Anybody can claim anything. The vast majority of "designer dog breeders" aren't going to even consider any health or temperament testing, etc.

  • Emily
    Lv 6
    9 years ago

    These are not bred as designer dogs. There is a different between mixes, bred accidentally or otherwise, and designer breeds. Designer breeds are bred to be sold for tons of money, usually small purse dogs. Chiweenies, yorkipoos, maltipoo, labradoodle, etc. Those are designer breeds. There is a difference between a labradoodle and a lab mix. People breed labradoodles with intent. I have seen many people call their dogs "Pure bred labradoodles" etc. People pick the mixes they want, thinking the cute name means something as to the dog they are getting. They think they are "new breeds" or hybrids" or "designer breeds"

    Most dogs in those organizations and demonstrations are rescues, which are usually mixes bred by back yard breeders or accidentally from dogs escaping.

  • 9 years ago

    I have nothing against cross bred dogs but it's the terminology of calling them 'designer breeds' that gets on my quince. They're cross bred dogs, not deisgner breeds.

    The 'designer dog' label is just a ploy to get more money for the back yard breeders who deliberately cross breed dogs and this is what causes so much well deserved disrespect for those scummy back yard breeders who use the designer breed label.

    I choose to have pure bred dogs because I love the beauty and predictability of my breeds in looks and conformation. They're behaviour of course is my responsibility. If they are well trained and well behaved then I've done an ok job.

    This 'designer breed' lable was coined by a gardener in Australia who had a TV show. He fell out of favor with the 'registered' breeders and chose to act out of spite by promoting so called 'designer breeds'.

    Just call them what they are, cross bred dogs.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    I have two designer dogs and they are great pets and healthy. I just bought a "morkie" maltese yorkie mix her breeder was great the parent dogs are healthy and she gave vet records and the vets contact info as proof, my pup had her dew claws removed had been dewormed and give shots and advantage multi flea protection she came with a 2 year health guarantee and I can contact the breeder if needed. Not all breeders of designer dogs are in it for money there are people who breed them who truly do care about the health and well being of the parents and the puppies. Now some people refuse to believe this, why I have no idea maybe because they like blaming pet overpopulation on designer dogs? They also seem to have a problem with the price again I have no idea why because no one is asking them to pay. Why would someone buy a mutt when so many dogs are dying in shelters? Why not! I will buy the dog I want and since I will be caring for it i don't see why anyone cares if I buy a morkie a cockapoo or any other dog I choose. I know I will get a bunch of TD for this but who cares it's true not my problem if people can't accept it.

  • 9 years ago

    Hope you have a lot of Armour because its about to get crazy! I can predict the answers right now.

    Let me quote what some people are going to say:

    "Good Breeders Don't Breed Mutts"

    "You are taking to unproven dogs to get a mutt"

    "Only BYBs breed mutts"

    "They have no purpose"

    That's a few. I'm not going to put my thoughts in this.

    A dog is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. So if someone wants to pay 2500 for a mixed dog, then its their money that they worked for. People are going to have their opinion on this any in the end it really doesn't matter what you choose. People are going to continue to breed mutts and people are going to continue to breed pure-breeds, whether its for a purpose or for looks.

    At this point I don't care because people are going to do what ever they want. You can tell them that breeding is for professionals, but its just going in one ear and out the other. You can show them a 1 million stats and they still aren't going to listen. As long as the designer dog fab is around then people are going to feel the need to make money off it.Mix breeding is how we ended up with a lot of breeds we have today. I'm not saying people should mix breed.

    For those who say people who breed mixes can't genetic test, why can't they?

    A lot of people bred Pure-breds for the purpose of making money. So some pure-bred dogs aren't no better than a mix dog. As far as temperament and health issues. Take those people who have "teacups"

    Some mixes was created to have a purpose originally such as the Labradoodle. Their purpose was to be an hypoallergenic dog, but they don't breed true. People changed what they were originally meant to do and started breeding them just from the fad.

    Source(s): I said I wasn't going to put my thought but I did. lol :) I don't approve or disapprove.
  • Well honestly, I could care less about how my dog looks.Even though I prefer a good looking dog a little on the short side with a big head (can you guess my favorite breed yet lol), if not I love my pit bulls wich is probably not the breed what you are talking about. Anyway XD

    I'm not really for breeding because I love my shelter mutts, and LOVE my pit bulls no matter what shape or size. But some breeder do take the designer breeding to far...

    When I hear pit bull i see a well muscled dog with a thick neck and larger head. Not what people are refering to now, like the really thick dogs with heads about a half a foot wide and legs about 3 inches long.

    It is really disgusting that some people breed dogs for their looks and do not take health and the personality of the dog into consideration. So I'm not against or for designer breeding. As long as breeders take the health into consideration, the personality into consideration, and find each and every one of their puppies good homes I could care less.

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    Wow I missed the mark on this question Lol. :D

    I do disagree with breeding small dogs just for fashion purposes. An accident is one thing but breeding mixes for nothing is actually stupid. I have nothing againt the dogs, or the owners. The people who breed small dogs just for shows and to go into purses usually seem to be in it for just the money and the publicity.

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