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How to get out of this vicious circle?
I am given a question .......
Find a, b, c ... where
a + b + c = 12
abc = 60
ab + bc + ca = 47
I tried a lot of operations, which mostly ended to a circular reference. There must be some "sharp edge" which I am not getting to. Any clue to get out of these vicious circles?
Rather than mere answers, I wana know that "sharp edge" and guideline to solution.
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4 Answers
- Anonymous9 years agoFavorite Answer
By Vieta's formula, you can see that these are the coefficients of a polynomial in form of kx^3 + mx^2 + nx + r = 0.
Then, if we set a, b, and c as the three zeros of this polynomial, then r/k = -abc = -60, n/k = ab + bc + ac = 47, m/k = -(a + b + c) = -12. For the simplicity's sake, we can let k = 1.
Then, (x-a)(x-b)(x-c) = x^3 - 12x^2 + 47x - 60 = 0. Now, by rational roots theorem, we know there are 24 possible roots.
We can now use synthetic division to find a solution for this equation. You'll find that 3 is an easy solution.
Then, you get (x-3)(x^2 - 9x + 20)=0 and from here on, you can solve the quadratics by factoring.
note: in case you don't know what Vieta's formula is, it states that for a polynomial ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d = a(x-r1)(x-r2)(x-r3), b/a = -(r1 + r2 + r3), c/a = r1*r2 + r1*r3 + r2*r3, and d/a = -r1*r2*r3
- ajedrezLv 79 years ago
Define each variable in terms of the others.
a = 12 - b - c
a = 60/bc
ab + ca = 47 - bc
a(b + c) = 47 - bc
a = (47 - bc)/(b + c)
b = 12 - a - c
b = 60/ac
ab + bc = 47 - ac
b(a + c) = 47 - ac
b = 47 - ac/(a + c)
c = 12 - a - b
c = 60/ab
c(b + c) = 47 - ab
c = (47 - ab)/(a + b)
(12 - b - c)(bc) = 60
12bc - b^2c - bc^2 = 60
Now write b in terms of c.
b = 47 - ac/(a + c)
b = (47 - (12 - b - c)) / (12 - b - c + c)
b = (35 + b + c) / (12 - b)
b = (35 + b + c) / 12 - b
12b - b^2 = 35 + b + c
-b^2 + 11b + 35 = c
Now you have c solved, so put it into one equation and solve for another variable (in this case b)
(12 - b - (-b^2 + 11b + 35))(b)(-b^2 + 11b + 35) = 60
(12 - b + b^2 - 11b - 35)(b)(-b^2 + 11b + 35) = 60
(b^2 - 12b - 23)(b)(-b^2 + 11b + 35) = 60
(b^3 - 12b^2 - 23b)(-b^2 + 11b + 35) = 60
(-b^5 + 11b^4 + 35b^3 + 12b^4 - 121b^3 - 420b^2 + 23b^3 - 251b^2 - 805b) = 60
(-b^5 + 23b^4 - 86b^3 - 671b^2 - 805b) = 60
-b^5 + 23b^4 - 86b^3 - 671b^2 - 805b - 60 = 0
Solve that, and then you'll get b (You can just graph it). Then you substitute it into 2 of the equations, and you'll be able to simplify it so it's just the a & c terms. Then you can solve it like a regular system of 2 equations.
I hope this information was very helpful.
- 9 years ago
A=3 b=4 c=5
Just find the numbers that each go into for 12,47&60
I had a few more then just 3 4 & 5 like 1 but, that wouldnt even make since to try.
I put my numbers into your equations and boom. Idk. I just get number, it hard for me to explain what went on in my head.
Source(s): Stright a's in math, my whole life. Including my 3 years in college - ?Lv 59 years ago
there is an obvious solution of (3,4,5), but i'm thinking there mat be multiple solution sets beyond the 6 permutations ....
345
354
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534
543