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How to network router to router to servers?

I was a networking major but it is a bit boring to me, so I switched. I do have fundamentals of networking and such, been doing it myself, etc. I learned this in college but didn't fully understand...

I have my ISP router sitting on 192.168.254.254. The IP range is 192.168.254.1 - 192.168.254.50

My home network is on that router.

However, I want to run a cable to my rack. The cable will be static 192.168.254.25.

This will go to a 5 port router/switch. Then, on there I have 3 servers 1gE lines. AND, 3 IPMI cables.

This is the issue. I can only have 5 ethernet cables in that router... So 1 IPMI cable is going to be disconnected.

Could I hook up another 5 port switch/router somehow and all be on the same network?

I'd like for my 192.168.254.1 computer connect to 192.168.1.X - which will all be my servers network. Could I put another switch in somewhere so that my IPMI is off the Internal network, and is a bit private?

Keep in consideration, this line coming from the ISP router is a bit long. So I can't run TWO cables from there, to my TWO routers on the rack. It's a simple router for now, no switches as of now.

So I kinda need to daisy chain them somehow. :/ I'm not sure if it is possible...

Maybe 1 cable from ISP router. To then the server router, all three cables. Then one cable coming from the server router to the IPMI router.

BUT, would this be able to communicate to the different computers on the network 192.168.254?

If I think about it, I can probably design this somehow, but I am currently a bit busy with a lot of homework and I'm asking someone for a little insight here to what I should set my subnet masks and such to.

Thanks a lot!

Update:

Thanks the explanation was confusing just like mine haha. But I figured it out myself and wanted to update everyone.

I switch my ISP router to WAN. I hooked it into the 24 port switch and it works. I tried it with routers and it basically combined all of them into one big switch. I honestly didn't know you could do this UNTIL I remembered the computers will put up a flag basically waiting for a DHCP acknowledge request. I wondered how they got IP addresses... But then I guess the switch just talks to everyone and finds the DHCP itself.

So I am just using one switch for now. It is EXTREMELY hot in my room right now with 3 servers, 2 computers, and a switch, and now 4 high intensity bulbs that I don't have dimmed lol. I NEED to get these servers somewhere else for now before I lose weight.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone! Richard, thank you for the layout of your network! I will update you! :)

Thanks again!

Billy Rowe

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  • Bill R
    Lv 7
    9 years ago
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    it is just confusing

    isp router IP = 192.168.254.254 == u can probably set that to anything u want.

    I am assuming that is a multiport modem/router, set for 50 IP addresses. Only the # of ports matters.

    main computer IP = 192.168.254.1 connected to 1 port leaving 3 ports

    rack = 5 port switch connected to a port on the router leaving 2 ports - that has no IP address.

    if u can configure it for one and set DHCP DO NOT.

    Computers connected to it get their IP address directly from the router. U can hang 4 devices on that since 1 port goes to the router. U will either have to:

    1. connect the extra lines (2) to the router directly - 0 ports left

    2. connect another switch to the existing switch plugging the 3 remaining into it - u had to remove 1

    3. change it out for an 8 port switch - all will plug into it

    as long as permissions r set up correctly on the computers all will be able to communicate via the router which is the DHCP.

    U now have one network 192.168.254.x where x=1 to 50

    If u want and can make the switch a DHCP to get 2 networks, right off hand I don't know what needs to be configured to let all computers talk but I am sure it can be done.

  • 9 years ago

    I have not been able to work out exactly what your full network looks like. However, I will try and give you a few pointers from a couple of networks I have set up.

    My home network has one port on my ISP router that is connected to a 5 port unmanaged switch (a Netgear FS605). Three ports on the router connect to 3 computers, while a fourth port connects to a powerline network adapter. (The fifth port connects to the ISP router.)

    The powerline network replaced a 30 metre Ethernet cable that I had originally (my wife did not like the cable trailing round the house). The powerline network is permanently connected through the house power wiring to two other adapters in different areas of the house. One of these adapters is connected only to a media streamer, while the other is connected to another Netgear 5 port switch, which then feeds another media streamer, an Internet enabled TV and another computer.

    On some occasions I plug in an extra powerline adapter that incorporates a wireless access point so that I can use my wireless laptop anywhere in the house.

    All my devices are on a single sub-net. My servers are on static addresses so that I can locate these on the network from devices that do not support Microsoft networking. Also, the ISP router and the powerline wireless access point device is also on a static addresses.

    The other network installation is in a small local hotel to provide Internet access for the guests and the hotel staff.

    This starts off at the ISP router. This provides provides wireless coverage to some rooms, and also provides connection to two other routers that act as wireless access points elsewhere in the hotel to provide coverage for other guest rooms. This all operates on one sub-net. Another Ethernet port on the ISP router is cable connected to a non-wireless router that supports a second sub-net. This non-wireless router is cable connected to a terminal in the bar area for staff to use. It also connects to another wireless router that provides WiFi access for the staff. The staff network all operates on the second sub-net.

    Anywhere on the entire network including the Internet is accessible from the staff sub-net. However, from the guest sub-net only other guests and the Internet are accessible.

    If I can give you any more information or you want to discuss things in more detail, please email me.

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    that's the configuration i'd bypass with. you are able to bypass the DNS and DHCP purposes to Untangle or you are able to enable the router to do it. the alternative is yours to make yet i'd want the device closest to the hosts to make that call. Modem (LAN) = Static IP address: 10.0.0.a million Router a million = (WAN) = Static IP address: 10.0.0.2 Router a million (LAN) = Static IP address: 192.168.a million.254 Untangle (Bridge Mode) WAN plugged into Router a million LAN Untangle (LAN) = Static IP address: 192.168.a million.253 (DHCP & DNS) Router 2: no longer mandatory Servers & different hosts: DHCP i'm no longer particular if you're required to apply each and every of the kit or no longer. if so then dismiss.

  • 9 years ago

    You can add a hub/switch to a router. When anything you plug in asks for a DHCP, it will go to the router. Older routers needed a crossover cable, but this is no longer needed with newer hardware. Everything will fall onto the same subnet, if there is enough subnet addresses configured.

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