Whad did Choki Motobu mean when he said Gichin Funokoshi can only imitate Karate not actually do it?

Choki Motobu and Gichin Funokoshi had a long standing feud, they hatted each other with such passion . And choko made sure to embaress funakoshi ever chance he got.

I don't but much stock into what he said or claimed about funakoshi.

Besides many okinawa's didn't like the way funakoshi presented karate and made changes to it, to make it japanese

The Japanese or more specifically the JKA made a lot of changes to shotokan, the shotokan taught today isn't what funakoshi taught, shotokai is closer. Hence the big slit between the two.

The JKA wanted karate to be striking and a sport. They removed most of the grappling.

The okinawa's refused to recognized what funakoshi did for karate at least many of the masters did. They left him out of an important meeting after he made all the break throughs with Japan in getting karate recognized by them

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As Kokoro answered, they didn't have much use for each other. Motobu was a famous street fighter in Okinawa and Funokoshi was one that never wanted sparring or any kind of hand to hand combat in his classes. He maintained that some one would get badly hurt or killed by the techniques. On more than one occasion Motobu took it on himself to embarrass Funokoshi. Motobu thought that what Funokoshi taught was soft and that he couldn't fight or would't fight when challanged by Motobu.

In other words... more of a "Karate-Do" than a "Karate-Jitsu"

Kokoro is correct... it was meant as an INSULT!

Funakoshi did what he thought was the best for the country, and came up with one of the best PE programs ever. In my mind, the only other trendy alternative was Kano's Judo training.

Imagine trying to convert UFC/MMA as a primary school PE class, but without very much contact at all. You'd probably have to emphasize a certain aspect of the 'sport,' create a stylised rendition of encounters and drill participants in mock combat. There might even be an artistic component thrown in.

I think of such a conversion of fighting skill to a martial sport as a methodology of training. A methodology helps standardise the transmission to would be students. You are engaged in a facsimile of combat in a stylised approach in order for instructors to be able to 'grade' you and keep people entertained.

Choiki Motobu was known as a tough-as-nuts fighter who would not hesitate to use his skills for the real thing. I'm sure Motobu seeing Funakoshi - on his high horse - teaching what he felt amounted to a useless system rankled him. To make matters worse, Funakoshi experienced good success in recruiting students and getting recognised by Japanese institutions. There were more than a few unhappy campers in Naha.

Still happens all the time.

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