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Why there is another Jesus , thousand of years older?
Why the story of Jesus ( Isis ) is found in ancient Egypt , with 95% like Jesus ,he was born the same date as Jesus ,he rose people from the dead , he healed ,he got baptized , crucified , died three days and then he got up from the dead , he was tested in the desert ,and was called lamb of God ,son of Man etc..
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- AranthealLv 78 years ago
I rather doubt that. I frankly have never ever seen a reliable source which indicated Isis or Horus or any other Egyptian god reportedly doing half those things. The links always lead to some really untrustworthy-looking Youtube-videos.
Sure lots of the motifs in Christianity are copied. That doesn't imply everything about it is.
- ?Lv 78 years ago
Nope. Horus was indeed worshiped in Egypt for thousands of years before Jesus. But the Jesus-like elements of the Horus story weren't introduced until well after Christianity was established in Egypt.
The earliest descriptions of the pseudo-Christian version of Horus worship are in the late fourth century of the Christian era. By that time, Egypt was not only familiar with Christianity, it was a major center of Christian monasticism and Christian scholarship.
The degree to which a Horus religion imitated Christianity at this late date is indeed remarkable, but arguing that because there was a Horus religion earlier it was the same is like arguing that ancient Egyptians had an interplanetary space program because they mentioned having seen the moon.
- Anonymous8 years ago
You're confusing Isis with Horus.
There is also Mithras, who is a bit similar as well except he is a Persian Diety who many Roman Soldiers idolized.
- Anonymous8 years ago
How could he have been born the same date as Jesus if the story's thousands of years older?
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- ?Lv 68 years ago
You confuse Isis with Horus, but either way these parallels were debunked ages ago. They were made up by atheists and cannot be found in any of the original myths.
- Anonymous8 years ago
The Zeitgeist movie makes these claims about the Egyptian god Horus:
• He was born on December 25 of a virgin (Isis Mary)
• A star in the East proclaimed his arrival
• Three kings came to adore the new-born “savior”
• He became a prodigious teacher at age 12
• At age 30 he was “baptized” and began a “ministry”
• Horus had twelve “disciples”
• Horus was betrayed
• He was crucified
• He was buried for three days
• He was resurrected after three days
If true, this would certainly be unsettling to followers of Christ. However, examining each point in detail is quite revealing. First, it is true that Egyptian legend has Horus being born to Isis. But where did the trailing name of “Mary” that used in the movie come from? No mention in any Egyptian literature links the name Isis to the name Mary. Isis was also not a virgin. No account of Horus’ birth makes this statement. Isis was not a virgin, but the widow of Osiris, another Egyptian god who conceived Horus with Isis. Finally, Horus was supposedly born during the month of Khoiak (Oct/Nov), and not on December 25, a fact which does not help their claim of marrying the stories of Horus and Jesus, anyway, because the Bible never assigns a birth date to Christ.
Next, the film states that a star in the East announced Horus’ birth and that three kings came to bring gifts to the “savior.” However, when stories detailing the birth of Horus are examined, there is no star or three kings who come to visit him. Trying to link this to Christianity fails in any event, as the account of Christ’s birth in Matthew has magi (wise men, not kings) coming to Jesus with their actual number not being stated. Clearly, the movie is using the traditions of December 25 and three wise men, not the Bible, to link Jesus and Horus. Finally, the movie calls Horus a “savior.” There are no descriptions of Horus being a savior to anyone or serving in that capacity.
This is an important point: the movie takes extreme liberty in the quick and subtle uses of Christian words and phrases that in no way accurately describe the actual pagan god or his attributes. This is seen again in the statements of Horus being “baptized” and starting a “ministry.” The only accounts remotely related to Horus and water are the stories told of Osiris (his father who is sometimes combined in ancient accounts with Horus to form one individual) whose body was cut up into 14 pieces by his enemy, Set, and scattered throughout the earth. Isis supposedly found each part of the body and after having Osiris float in the Nile, he came back to life or became the lord of the underworld, depending on which account is read. In any event, stating that Horus was “baptized” is simply playing fast and loose with Christian terminology and is another obvious attempt to link mythology and the Bible.
In addition, Horus had no “ministry.” Horus becoming a teacher at age 12 (mimicking the account of Jesus at the temple as a youth) is nowhere to be found in accounts of Horus; neither are there any statements to the effect that he had 12 “disciples.” According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four semi-gods that were followers and some indications of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him. No accounts of Horus being betrayed are found in his portrayals and he certainly did not die by crucifixion in any account. There is an incident described in one story of Horus being torn to pieces, with Iris requesting that the crocodile god pull him out of the water, but the movie does not mention this, as it does not fit their agenda. Further, the movie puts the account of Horus as originating in 3000 B.C., which predates the invention and practice of crucifixion, so there is another historical problem that must be overcome.
The claims of Horus being buried for three days and resurrected are not to be found in any ancient Egyptian texts, either. Some accounts have Osiris being brought back to life by Isis and going to be the lord of the underworld. But there is no mention of a burial for three days and no mention of his physically coming out of a grave in the same physical body he went in with and never dying again. And there is certainly no account of Horus dying for others as Jesus did.
In the end, the attempt to prove Horus was a picture/forerunner of Jesus simply fails from lack of any historical evidence. The movie continues in this same vein with all the other mythological pagan deities that pre-dated Jesus (Attis, Krishna, etc.) As just another simple example, the Zeitgeist movie says that Hindu’s Krishna was also crucified and resurrected. However, Hindu teachings clearly state that Krishna was killed by an arrow shot from a hunter who accidentally hit him in his heel, and after he died, he ascended to be with Brahman. None of the pagan deities, when accurately examined, mirror the Son of God recorded in the New Testament Gospels.
Source(s): Of course, neither does the movie note the following facts: • The many archaeological details confirming New Testament accounts. • The historically confirmed references to the details of the life of Christ. • The early dating of the Gospel accounts during the lifetime of the eyewitnesses. • The deep moral convictions of the authors and their commitment to truth. • The accounts of the apostles going to their deaths for what they believed. • The typology of Joseph and Jesus (used by the film to supposedly debunk the actual existence of Christ) is very well known and accepted by conservative Christian scholars as a foreshadowing of the first coming of Jesus. • All the good produced by Christianity (see How Christianity Changed the World by Dr. Alvin Schmidt), which is brushed aside with only the crusades and other like events being highlighted. Source(s): http://gotquestions.org/zeitgeist-movie.html - the ChristianLv 78 years ago
You want truth..read the bible....you want lies listen to the devil.
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