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Emily
Lv 6
Emily asked in Food & DrinkVegetarian & Vegan · 8 years ago

Veg*ns... do you/will you vaccinate yourself/children?

In doing my research as to whether to vaccinate our children, I pulled up the CDC's "Vaccine Excipient & Media Summary" of the ingredients in currently administered vaccines... and it's an eye-opener, to say the least.

I won't get into the safety/efficacy questions regarding vaccination here, but I'm curious as to other vegetarian/vegan opinions on many of the animal ingredients in these vaccines... including, but not limited to...

-human serum albumin

-fetal bovine serum

-human-diploid fibroblast cell cultures

-Vero (monkey kidney) cells

-Fenton medium (containing bovine extract)

-calf serum

-egg protein

-chick embryo cell culture

(there are quite a number more, and these are just from a handful of injections... very few seem to be free of any animal or human-tissue based culture).

Just curious to see the veg*n take on vaccination from this angle (I'm not looking for rhetorical or otherwise debate about the safety/efficacy of vaccines... that's for another section of YA entirely).

For those who are interested in the full ingredient lists: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/download... ... it's current as of February 2012.

Update:

No, but it takes far fewer characters to type a * and be inclusive of vegetarians and vegans than it is to write out both words, and allows for a complete question prior to click-through.

Update 2:

lo_mcg-- as I stated, I wasn't looking for rhetorical debate on the efficacy of vaccines or one's personal feelings towards them as a whole (that is a much longer, and much more debatable question). Simply, I was wondering whether many vegetarians or vegans put their moral standards towards ingredients in things like vaccines (the question had nothing to do with medical testing on animals, if you recall, which is unrelated to ingredients on a basic level), as opposed to just in food/clothing. I *am* very sorry about your sister, that is a horrible burden to bear, and I mean you no ill will in that respect, I just wished to clear up this question for further answerers.

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  • lo_mcg
    Lv 7
    8 years ago
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    Vegan - and YES.

    The words vegan and vegetarian are not synonymous with the word 'martyr'.

    Being veg*n is about minimising your personal contribution to animal suffering as much as you can.

    Putting at risk your own life and the lives of others isn't a requirement.

    ALL medication has been tested on animals, and almost all meds contain animal by-products.

    So a veg*n claiming they would never have a vaccine containing the things you list would also, if they broke their leg, not only refuse to have the bones reset but refuse any pain relief

    Being vegan isn't a suicide pact, it is not about valuing animal life above human life, and it certainly is not about risking your children's lives.

    My mother had rubella during pregnancy; my sister was severely disabled throughout her life before dying too young. My mother's parents didn't have the option of having her vaccinated and possibly avoiding a tragedy like this - parents today have that option for their children and it would be irresponsible and immoral not to take it.

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    EDIT: You cannot separate the two.

    Were you really seeking a series of one word answers ('yes' or 'no')?

    You say 'Simply, I was wondering whether many vegetarians or vegans put their moral standards towards ingredients in things like vaccines'

    That's an extremely loaded statement/question. If people had answered as you apparently wished, would you take it, for example, that your 'No' answerers were NOT applying their 'moral standards' to this issue? Or that they were?

    The question you have asked, and the way you have worded it, demands and requires explanation from the answerers.

    My 'moral standards' have led me to be a vegan. They have also led me to be very angry with those who rely on other parents vaccinating their children to provide herd immunity, at the same time placing other people's children in potential danger by not vaccinating their own children.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    My child has his first vaccinations the next day to come and his BCG on Saturday, I'm no longer watching ahead to it and earlier than approaching right here, or any parenting internet site I did not even feel two times approximately vaccinations. I vaccinated my different 2 kids with out a blink. The midwife requested me three occasions if I desired the child to have a nutrition K injection and the surgeon made first-rate certain I rather desired to vaccinate him, reminding me that it was once my alternative. This did not occur with my different 2 and I'm puzzling over if the non-vaccination motion is getting extra clout now. Nothing will sway me as I am very so much professional-vacciation, however like the whole lot there may be constantly somewhat doubt satan hiding on my shoulder and pronouncing...what if they are proper and you're improper, he's only a tiny child! So with a bit of luck studying this will likely ship him away!

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    I understand what you're asking, but to me both the safety and ingredients issues have to be looked at in tandem. Routine childhood vaccination has all but eradicated some of the world's major diseases, and one of the reasons why is the "herd protection", whereby the more children vaccinated the less risk to the population as a whole. That is what I took into account when I decided to get my children vaccinated. Sure, the ingredients are repulsive if you dwell on them, but they are used in infinitesimal quantities and their use helps prevent the use of more animal ingredients down the line if your child (and/or someone else's) contracts one of the diseases.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Absolutely. For me personally taste is not a good enough reason to kill animals, but protecting my child from diseases that can blind, cripple or even kill definitely is. In this case it is literally 'us or them'.

    I know you're not looking for a debate on the efficacy or safety of vaccines, but that IS of course key in my decision. If I thought vaccines were unsafe, I would not expose my child to them regardless of the ingredients. If I thought they weren't effective, I would not want animals to be killed for something that doesn't actually protect my child.

    But since I think they ARE safe and ARE effective, I choose protecting my child over protecting animals.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Wow, I'd hate to see an outbreak of a preventable disease like polio within the vegan community.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    It's about reasonably reducing your contribution to animal suffering. Avoiding vaccination, which save lives and prevents suffering in humans is not reasonable.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm 17 right now so it'll be a few years before I have children. I'll have to do a little more research to be sure. But I think I'm not going to get them vaccinated as frequently as recommended, but only the ones I feel are important, then let them decide when they're older for the others. (like when they're old enough to understand about why we're vegan)

    I'll look into how they obtain these animal ingredients now though. I didn't actually know that. Thank you :)

    EDIT: ok, I was very wrong. This is disgusting! I don't think they'll be getting very many, if any vaccines for my future children.

    Source(s): Vegetarian for 6 years, vegan for a month.
  • 8 years ago

    I don't have children but if I ever do I will only allow them to be vacinated with cruelty free products! that dont' contain no animal ingredients or have'nt been tested on animals! Vegans dont' use animal products! Innocent animals should not have to die for our medicine because there are cruelty free alternatives in this day and age!

  • 8 years ago

    She didn't senor it. The * in veg*n is put their to indicate both vegetarians and vegans.

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    ("vegan" is not offensive or an expletive swear word, you don't have to sensor it)

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