Is this the True meaning of Christmas John 17:3?

The true meaning of Christmas was to attract pagans into joining Christendom & to stop people taking in accurate knowledge of God & his son Jesus.

I think the idea was take something bad and try to make it good ,we want a day to celebrate the most perfect being ever created ,so whats the harm in that?In my opinion ppl have taken Christmas to a place it was not intended to go overly gift-giving,going in debt over it ,ppl becoming stressed and depressed b/c they lack the ability to do what they want for the holidays.I know that IS NOT what Jesus wanted .But all the blah , blah pagan stuff is a little much,we get it Christians have taken it and many other practices and changed it for themselves...so.

The scripture has nothing to do with Christmas or any other pagan celebration. Everlasting life is dependant on knowing Jehovah is the only true God, knowing him as a person so as to love him worship him and serve him; to know his requirements and righteous standards so as to live by them. To realise the depth of His love for all mankind such that He gave his Son for us as stated in

John 3:16. While on the earth, Jesus showed us how to live in a way Jehovah approves of, (read

1 Peter 2:21) and being the Son of Jehovah the firstborn of all creation he reflected his father's qualities perfectly (Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:1-3) so by copying Jesus example we learn how to imitate Jesus father Jehovah. We also develop a deep love for God and Christ and and exercise faith in the ransom as well as complete trust and faith in God. You can also learn by means of a free home Bible study, just ask us, Jehovah's Witnesses, when we call or ask via our web-site jw.org . This site gives much information about us, enables the Bible and Bible based literature to be read or downloaded and much more.

Essentially, yes. I am perfectly aware that Jesus Christ was not actually born on 25 December, and that the festival which became known as Christmas was originally the time of a pagan festival, but since we do celebrate the birth of Jesus at this time of year, and we do now call it Christmas, then yes, it is the greatest love story ever told! Forget xmas, and put Christ back into Christmas - Jesus Christ, God the Son, came to this earth to live as a man, to grow up, and eventually to die for sins which he did not commit, rising again from the dead 3 days later, in order that sinful human beings can be forgiven and can have a right relationship with God once again.

Christmas is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it's origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!

The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!

Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war.

The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas – PAGAN!

The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash. But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated - ALL PAGAN!

Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle - PAGAN!

In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!

Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!

Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor – PAGAN!

In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking. The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!

The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored. Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.

The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship. Holly and ivy represented male and female. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual - all PAGAN!

Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children. Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!

The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!

AMERICA ACTUALLY BANNED CHRISTMAS several times and is the originator of the expression “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!

The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!

Christmas is the time of year christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become

I agree. The true meaning of everything is love. God and love are synonymous .. Christ is love. It really bothers me when people have a hateful God, but we are all growing in our spiritual lives I guess.

Christmas has nothing to do with christianity . Christians stole it from the pagans. 3000 years ago , it was considered a bad and satanic holiday . Now christians act like it was the birth of jesus . But actually , christmas has existed for much longer than 2000 years old.

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of the blessed Lord Jesus Christ and is the incarnation of God thus it is a celebration of peace and love. Nice to see a lovely post for a change

Jesus in Praying to HIS FATHER said: "This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17: 3. So listen to what the son says when he calls his father THE ONLY TRUE GOD!

See "The Ransom—God’s Greatest Gift"

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teac...

Kinda stamps on the trinity loons, doesn't it?

>So the true meaning of Christmas is LOVE?!

Have to wonder about a religion that promotes "being nice" on one day over all the others.

Try Buddhism - it's much more "year friendly." Even June 3rd gets the same treatment.