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It's one-thirty am and Calculus is frying my brain... Help?

Okay so my teacher thought teaching ourselves Related Rates over Christmas break was a lovely idea and I'm stuck.

A streetlight is at the top of a vertical 20-ft pole. A man 6-ft tall walks away from the streetlight with a speed of 5ft/s along a straight path. A.( How fast is his shadow lengthening when he is 40 ft from the pole? B.( How fast is the tip of his shadow moving at that point?

I've already concluded that A= ds/dt= 15/7 ft/s or 2.14

But I don't understand what is being asked of for "b", because it's not theta, no angles were mentioned, but I already have the complete length of the shadow.

How do I proceed?

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  • Brian
    Lv 7
    8 years ago
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    So you probably know about using similar triangles for this sort of problem.

    We have one triangle formed by the pole, the distance from the base of the pole

    to the tip of the man's shadow and the resulting hypotenuse.

    The second smaller but similar triangle is formed by the man, the distance from

    the man's feet to the tip of his shadow and the resulting hypotenuse.

    Letting the distance from the base of the pole to the man's feet be x and the

    distance from the man's feet to the tip of his shadow be s, then the similarity

    of the two triangles tells us that

    (x + s)/20 = s/6 ----> 6*(x + s) = 20*s ---> 6x = 14s ----> s = (3/7)*x.

    So now taking the derivative of both sides of this last equation with respect to time,

    and noting that the man is walking away at a speed of dx/dt = 5 ft/s, we get

    ds/dt = (3/7)*dx/dt = (3/7)*5 = (15/7) ft/s, as you have found.

    For B.), what you need to calculate is the rate of change of the tip of his shadow

    relative to the base of the pole, i.e.,

    d/dt(x + s) = dx/dt + ds/dt = 5 + (15/7) = 50/7 ft/s.

  • 8 years ago

    Part (b) is somewhat of a "trick" question, but it's a good one!

    Let D be the distance between the streetlight and the man at time t, and let s be the distance between the man and the end tip of his shadow at time t.

    Then, the distance between the streetlight and the tip of the man's shadow, at time t, is given simply by the sum of the previous two distances, or D + s.

    (D + s) ' (t) is the quantity we want. Since (D + s) ' (t) = D '(t) + s '(t), and we know that D '(t) = 5ft/s and s '(t) = 15/7 ft/s, we know (D + s) '(t) = 5+15/7 = 50/7 ft/s or 7.14ft/s.

    The key to part (b) is realizing that the speed of the tip of the man's shadow is contributed to by two speeds, one of which is constant in time and one of which varies in time. Specifically, the man's walking speed is constant, at 5ft/s, but the rate of the lengthening of the man's shadow is time-dependent. The sum of these two quantities determines how fast the tip of the shadow is moving at any time t.

    If you drew a diagram for this problem, the quantity to be solved for in part (b) would be the rate at which the base length of the largest right triangle increases.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Assuming you're correct about the shadow lengthening at 2.14 feet per second, the tip of the shadow is moving at 7.14 feet per second at that point, because the base of the shadow is moving at the same speed as the man, which is 5 feet per second.

  • 8 years ago

    pole-height = 20 ft,

    man-distance = 40 ft,

    Let,

    shadow length = x ft.

    For similar triangles : (40+x)/x = 20/6,

    OR,

    6(40+x) = 20x, ===> 240 +6x = 20x,

    OR,

    20x -6x = 240, ===> 14x = 240,

    OR,

    x = 240/14 = 120/7 ft. ................................................. [1]

    Man's speed = 5 ft/sec

    and

    Let,

    shadow speed = s ft/sec,

    SO,

    (40+5+s)/s = 20/6,

    6(45+s) = 20s, ===> 270 +6s = 20s,

    20s-6s = 270,

    14s = 270, ===> s = 270/14,

    Thus,

    shadow-speed = s = 19.29 ft/sec >=====================< ANSWER

  • 8 years ago

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    <----- x ----><-- y -->

    If he is x feet away from the streetlight, and his shadow is y feet long,

    then 6/y = 20/(x + y)

    6x + 6y = 20y

    6x = 14y

    y = (3/7)x

    (A)

    dy/dt = (3/7)dx/dt = 15/7 ft/s

    (B)

    The tip of his shadow is at x + y.

    So it is moving at dx/dt + dy/dt = 5 ft/sec + 15/7 ft/sec = 7 1/7 ft/sec

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