Jehovah's Witnesses are you honest?

I did not serve Jehovah out of love while I was a Witness. I wanted to... I really did. I tried to love God. In reality, though, I really was serving out of fear. Fear that God would destroy me at Armageddon. I hoped in time I would learn to love Jehovah. However, as a Witness I was constantly in state of fear and guilt. I always felt unworthy. I felt if Jehovah was really going to destroy billions of people why should he save me? I'm no better than anyone else. I grew to hate God for requiring a standard from me that I could not reach. Regarding shunning (disfellowshipping). Yes I used to shun disfellowshipped ones also. Again, this was based on fear. Fear that breaking the rules on disfellowshipping would only make matters worse for myself. I'm sorry but this is true.

You are correct, @ I'm better than.....is NOT a JW!

OK so you would like to know why we shun? It is a bible command and as we try our best to obey God then we do what he asks because he know what is best for us and the congregation!

Here are the biblical principles:

"quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves" 1 COR 5: 9-13

ROMANS 16:17

Now I exhort you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them.

2 THESSELONIANS 3:6

Now we are giving you orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition you received from us.

As most of those that are shunned is for gross misconduct such as outlined in the first scripture in 1 COR 9, then it goes without saying that we have to do what God asks, that is not to say that they are not given many chances to repent, and even when disfellowshiped, they are encouraged to repent and return.

You said in your question, ""Do you honestly love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength?" well our being obedient to Gods word shows that to be so!

What about you? do you have the courage to take sides with God and show him how much you love him by doing what he asks? There are many example in the OT that show how many were obedient to God even though it might have been a hard thing to do!

Did you know that in the days of the patriarchs that if you had a rebelious son you were to bring him into the public square to have him stoned, that is not what we say but Gods word, here it is:

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, 20 and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Tell me what do you think about that, does that sound reasonable to you? would

you say that God is being unjust here ? Good job that today all he asks us to do

even if we have a family member that is continuously rebellious against Gods,

what he asks it that they be disciplined, it is done so that they will return to their

senses, it shows REAL love to discipline such ones!

Consider this: "For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left,27but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment and [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition" Hebrews 10: 26-27 I would rather have discipline someone this way than have them come under the above judgement!

It is out of love for God, and love for our brother that we discipline, do you love God enough to support his commands ?

EDIT............I was not saying that God commands us to stone rebellious ones, you are twisting my words, I was just making a point!

You quote John 13:35, but that does not override the above council at 1 COR, and you have not answered my question about how obedient you are to it ???

i think of you are able to basically answer that question. basically you understand the shape you particularly experience in direction of Jehovah. in case you honestly need to come again into the reality than "have confidence in Jehovah with all your coronary heart" - Proverbs 3:5 turn your back on each and all of the worldly issues. you nonetheless have time to alter, keep in mind "Jehovah isn't sluggish respecting his promise, as some human beings evaluate slowness, yet he's affected person with You because of the fact he would not want any to be destroyed yet needs all to attain to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

@ Terry got it right..............so what do you do in your church when someone lives a life that is immoral and against Gods high standards, do you let them remain in your church ? If you do then you ignore Gods word as was shown to you in the scriptures quoted by @Terry..............!

"Loving God means keeping his commandments, and his commandments are not burdensome."

1 John 5;3..................so do you love God enough to keep is commands ?

Heb 10:26 ""For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment and [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition"

Me thinks that you overlook Gods commands thinking that God overlooks unrepentant sinners !

Read the article: "expelling"

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001462?q=di...

"Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.

We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.”—1 Corinthians 5:13.

What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah’s Witnesses? The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.

Disfellowshipped individuals may attend our religious services. If they wish, they may also receive spiritual counsel from congregation elders. The goal is to help each individual once more to qualify to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Disfellowshipped people who reject improper conduct and demonstrate a sincere desire to live by the Bible’s standards are always welcome to become members of the congregation again".

The disfellowshipping principle is taken from the Bible. You can't quote the parts of the Bible you want and ignore the other parts.

And you mention love. Disfellowshipping is a loving thing to do. It is tough love. It may motivate the person to change their bad behavior and come back into the truth.

We are as honest as imperfect humans can be. Certainly as regards the Truth of God's Word, the Bible. When asked a question, we do not pompously rare back to deliver our own learned thoughts on the matter as the clergies do. No. We turn to the scriptures themselves to give God's viewpoint.

When we give information, we do not have any income in the balance as the clergies do either. 2 Timothy speaks of people getting teachers for themselves to "tickle their ears" or tell them what they want to hear. If they do not hear it, they fire him and get another clergyman. Their income depends on this. Jehovah's Witnesses obey Jesus as he ordered, "YOU received free, give free. " (Matt. 0:8) Or Paul's words, "[We are;] for we are not peddlers of the word of God as many men are, but as out of sincerity, yes, as sent from God, under God’s view, in company with Christ, we are speaking." (2 Cor. 2:17)

That is why we refuse to collect money for any of our ministry. No collection plate or bucket is ever passed for the FREE home Bible studies with interested people, any of the meetings, nor at any convention. Would the clergies EVER even consider doing that? Of course not.

Yes love and honesty are the principle qualities of pure true worship of Jehovah God. In today's world among people of the world, accurate information and what is in it for the speaker becomes more important for them in this suspicious world.

What is the real question? And most important the intention of that nonsense?

If they are then why use Jesus as a cover boy for their magazines when they doubt he is the Son of GOD.

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed."