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The LHC, are they ever going to say they found the Higgs...?
They say they need to find the "spin" of the boson they found to be able to tell if its a higgs or not...yet here we are years and years ...and years later... Is it just me, or am I wrong for saying that I need a job working at the LHC... Them guys have it made.
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When I heard it only cost 20 million to build I was like "well thats a good price for once"..., but now it just feels like... we might of spent 20 mill on constant brake downs, and entertaining faster than light neutrinos.... Now I've heard they are thinking scraping the hole thing because of funding.
That can't be right thought.... right..?
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- Bob D1Lv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
("The LHC, are they ever going to say they found the Higgs...?")
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As I understand it, they're like 98 or 99% certain they have found it, but this is big science and they know they have to get it right. Being absolutely certain of their findings takes time. Finding the Higgs is simply too important to leave to change.
As for the American Supercollider in Texas: the initial cost was estimated at 4.4 billion. However, even if they had gone way over the starting estimate, the Texas Superconducting Super Collider would have been an invaluable scientific tool. It is a shame that our government caved in to pressure from right-wing rreligious groups to stop funding for that all important project. Had they went ahead and completed it, in all likelihood we would have found the Higgs and verified it years ago. That's the kind of thing that happens when society permits religion and business to have way too much political influence over how science is conducted.
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Source(s): self - ?Lv 78 years ago
This is the biggest machine ever made, it definitely cost much, much more than $20 million. Maybe you meant billions (the American version of billion, anyway), but I think it was more than that. (Need to go look it up now.) .... Oh, no, only around €7.5 billion, apparently. Still a far cry from $20M. If the cost had been that low there is no way the U.S. would have ever cancelled the supercollider project in Texas.
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As far as the Higgs discovery goes, they announced last year that they were pretty sure it had been found (5 sigma, I think). The thing is that it's not just a question of pointing to an object in a cloud chamber and saying "Ah ha! There it is!", like it was in the good old days of discovering protons and electrons. These detectors produce literally terabytes of information whenever a colliosion is performed, followed by an immense amount of number crunching. I would certainly be happier to hear them say "Yes, there it is!" rather than "We are certain to one chance in a million error that we have found it", but apparently that's not the way high energy physics works.
- leitnerLv 44 years ago
there is not any indication of sabotage. And if there have been, i might desire to bigger suspect the tin-foil hat crowd that thinks it is going to create a black hollow and swallow the earth. CERN is keen to restart in september. The tevatron has taken great ingredient approximately cern's downtime to pink meat themselves as lots by way of fact the ingredient that it is expected to be a tossup to no rely if tevatron or cern is first to end a higgs seek for. The higgs bosun is a expected quantum particle that provides bear in mind its mass. If stumbled on, we would finally have a physically powerful answer to furnish each and all the morons working around spectacular right here who ask "properly the placement did the flexibility come from that created all this from no longer something?"
- RaymondLv 78 years ago
--"Is it just me, or am I wrong for saying that I need a job working at the LHC"
It is just you.
Yes, they need to find the "spin" of the boson in order to identify it. And no, it has not been years and years.
As for your second paragraph, none of it makes sense.
The "faster than light neutrinos" were from a separate experiment (old news) and have been shown to NOT be faster than light. The mistake was done at the receiving end in Italy, NOT at CERN in Geneva.
No one is talking of scrapping it.
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- Mike1942fLv 78 years ago
we might of spent 20 mill on constant brake downs, ... thinking scraping the hole thing
Translating this to good English so you can get that job.
we might have spent 20 million on constant breakdowns, ... thinking scrapping the whole thing
(a mill is 1/1000 of a dollar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_%28currency%29)