With all seriousness do you agree than Shakib Al Hasan is the world's best all rounder next to Kallis?

Stats tell something but not everything! Shakib's performances came mainly against minnows! Even you know the fact that world class teams are averse to playing with minnow teams like Bangladesh!

Thus, Shakib was never completely rivalled by 'quality players'!

Yuvraj Singh -

http://www.espncricinfo.com/usa/content/player/360...

Ashwin -

http://www.espncricinfo.com/usa/content/player/264...

Jadeja is just showing some sheen on turning wickets! His batting still remains a worry!

Comparing Thisara Perera and Angelo Mathews with the other all rounders wont be prudent for the same reasons you mentioned!

Personally, i would rate Daniel Vettori higher than Shakib! Ican bet that if Shakib plays more against the 'giants' of world cricket, he would be trampled over mercilessly! Especially the Asian ones namely India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan as they are too accustomed to playing to spin bowling! Lol! Even mystery guys like Narine, Mendis or Ajmal find it difficult to reign in the subcontinent! Greats like Warne were pulverized in the subcontinent! Thus, Shakib's success in the SC would be very short lived! Outside the SC, there wont be pitches to aid Shakib and he would become the guinea pig! All this, IF and only IF he plays against other 'giants' of the game! Scoring big and scalping fivers against minnows wouldn't really be awe striking! As for Yuvi, yeah! He isn't a good bowler in the tests but in the ODIs, he has been tried very scantily, thus tagging him as a part timer, which is not true! Trust me, I have observed his game and he looks inconspicuously deceptive enough to snare the batter! He has made most of his chances in the ODIs! Moroever, the Indian mentality is that when a bowler fails to get his rhythm, get him out of the attack (acceptable) but he is brought back veryyy late, thus destroying his morale! Yuvi has been an unfortunate victim of it as he was never given ample opportunity when he failed! But when he performed in WC 2011, you know what happened!

Daniel Vettori -

http://www.espncricinfo.com/usa/content/player/387...

Shane Watson is injury prone, all right! But he is, by a huge margin, the best all rounder of these after Kallis!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/usa/content/player/818...

No denying the fact that he is much better than Shakib or any other all rounder in today's era after Kallis! His 'injury prone' charscter has been aggravated by the CA when they decided to play him as a pure batsman instead of an all rounder! That set the fire going!

So, the final verdict from my side is that there are a few players around like Watson and Vettori who have done it before and Ashwin who have the capability to do it in the future! Yuvi is also a very handy all rounder! So, there is stiff competition all around! Its nt so easy to pick one and place them as the queen bee!

IMO, the list for tests should be as -

#1 Kallis

#2 Vettori

And the list of ODIs should be as -

#1 Kallis

#2 Yuvraj

Shakib is a talented player but his talents could have been refurbished and groomed if he was under proactive coaches and a healthy cricket board! No issues with Bangladesh' cricket board but Shakib could have been in a better environment if not for his Bangladeshi origin! Somewhere deep down, a true cricket fan feels for waste of talent! Again, not exactly 'waste', but it could have been better!

Anyway, placing Shakib at #2 is the work of an imbecile!

Edit : @Dinith -

Watto is injury prone or has he been sculpted by the media in that way? Nobody can be sure of the inside but word is that the CA is reserving him for the Ashes as they don't want to go in the Ashes without the services of Watto! Imagine a depleted SL in the Ashes against a formidable English side! SL just has the services of Mathews as a veteran and there is a series before 'THE' series! Wont you, by human instincts, try and conserve Mathews for the bigger battle? That's what the CA proposes to do! Injury or no injury, Watto IS the best among the lot!

If you have a brand new currency note of X value, its value will be X! If its crumpled and soaked in sh!t, it still is of X value! That's what is the case with Watto! (Ignore the note jibe! :p)

Shakib maybe best all rounder in rankings at the moment, but he is no where near Kallis. Kallis is compared with Gary Sobers as an all rounder. All rounder rankings change frequently depending on many factors. If you check bowling and batting rankings many times you'll wonder how did this player get in here. So to answer not at all, Shakib is well short of Kallis. And highly unlikely he will come close to Kallis.

Good player,no doubt but second only after Kallis? It'd be easy for us if could come up with stats related to the opponents and the venues he played. The fact is, I don't rate a player unless he is effective in all conditions; the reason why Sir Jadeja is still a "sir" for me despite some very good performances in India.

Stats can lie if not extensive and intensive enough....... the spread and depth of data must be quite a lot before the accumulated stats can be taken very seriously..... how many test matches has Shakib played outside the subcontinent?.... I won't hurry right now to grant him even the second rank although I do rate him as one of the best upcoming all-rounders right now.

Dinith, you are absoultely right. There is no doubt that Shakib is the best all rounder after Kallis in modern day cricket. Shane Watson and Mohammad Hafeez would also be close contenders.

:)

Shakib's record is good. But most of those performances came against Zimbabwe and Kenya. Don't think he has ever played a test match against a top team and only very few ODI's against top sides. So i don't think he's the second best. Watson,UV,Hafeez..etc better than him.

If he would have played in any other top teams , then the story would have been different , who knows he might have been called as even Legend .! But sadly he plays with the low team , this usually makes him play against other minnows .!so answer to your Qn is NO.!

I like his Dedication towards the game , He won two consecutive Man of the series in BPL and Asia cup too.!

yes he has good performance on world wide cricket in the view of sense both are all rounder but everybody different like kellis start with opening batsman, medium speed bowler, other way sakib is not opening batsman and he is spinner with great fielder.

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Can't agree dinith... he played most of his matches against...teams like zimbabwe so can't agree...

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