Cardfight Vanguard or Yugioh?

I've been through both card games, and I have to say, both games have good and bad perks.

Let's start with popularity:

-Yu-Gi-Oh! started in 1998 (in Japan) or 2000 (in America). Since then, it became a world wide phenomenon, catching everyone's eyes and so everyone started playing. The continuous release of new series catches every generation present since 1998, and more and more people play. However, a card game where the "meta" is always taken into consideration drove away people who wanted to play for fun.

-Cardfight! Vanguard entered the fray during the February of 2011. Although many were skeptical on starting this, Vanguard is catching on to Yu-Gi-Oh!. Yu-Gi-Oh's one selling point was its diversity on its card typing along with the attribute, whereas Vanguard uses the clan concept in order to hook in the same fan base.

Now let's consider deck building:

-Yu-Gi-Oh! comprises of many released decks (A LOT), which lets new players choose what kind of deck they want to build. At first, it might seem like its fun to get a starter deck ), but as a player catches on, he/she realizes that optimization is a key part of Yu-Gi-Oh!. This is where it starts to spiral: let's say that 1 starter deck costs 20 CAD (I'm at Canada), and the deck has only 1 copy. However, you need 3 copies. If there are no nearby cardshops that sell singles, then you are forced to buy another deck, costing you $60. Now, deck may only consist of 40-60 cards, you will need to scrap cards. Another part of optimization is not only on the main deck, but also in the extra deck. The extra deck is a different story, as most cards in the Extra Deck could consist of values ranging from $1 up to even $50. And that's for 1 copy of a card. Although most cards for the main deck are relatively cheap, optimizing a deck is rather costly.

-Cardfight! Vanguard comprises of a deck of 50 cards; each deck consists of 16 trigger units (a card game that's luck based in most decks), and the mechanics revolve around getting units from grade 0 up to 3. If you already know about the mechanics, then skip right ahead to the next point. If you don't, then feel free to head straight to the source page at the bottom.

-Anyway, a consistency is needed in order to "ride" to the next level. If your deck consists of 16 triggers +1 Vanguard (17 grade 0s), you now have 33 cards left in order to build a deck.This consists of optimizing a deck right away. Luckily, most cards are sold cheap, varying in prices based on rarity. I will be using CAD as currency: Let's say you want a card, and it's rarity is R (cards are classified into 5 rarities: C (common), R (rare), RR (double rare) and RRR (triple rare) SP (Special)). R cards usually cost around $1-2. Commons usually cost around 25 cents. Double rares usually go for $3-5. RRRs and SPs usually go for $5 and up to $25 depending on effect Some RRs may exceed prices of RRRs (such cards include Silent Tom from the OTT clan, and of course, grade 1 sentinels at $8-18, depending on the cardshop). Now let's say we have a budget of $40. If each trigger (mostly common) is 25 cents each, and you need a total of 16 triggers, no more, no less, you now have $36 left. Seems pretty good no? Now, proceed to next grade. Rarity starts to kick in. Let's say you need a couple of cards priced at a dollar each (let's go with....15) You now have $21 left. Now some of the other cards you need is 25 cents as well. Let's say you need 17. That's $4.25. Now you have 16.75 left, and need only 2 cards left. let's say 1 is RRR and another is RR. That's 6-8 dollars. Now do the math. The deck I just used as an example does not use a perfect guard unit, which would have changed the price by up to 20-30 dollars.

Now let's go with Competitiveness:

-In today's "meta," Yu-Gi-Oh! consists of duelists striving for acknowledgement and the sense of joy in winning, completely obliterating the foe with a "perfect" combo move. Now optimization comes to play. AGAIN. To counter such combos, Konami releases cards to counter that. Now there's one problem: EVERYONE CAN USE IT. That's where decks with too much holes go down, and when you enter the current "meta" tournaments, these are some of the decks you will see almost all the time: "Six Samurais," "Dark Worlds," "Nin-Zektors," and all the other "Overpowered" Decks.

-As for Cardfight Vanguard, the chances of winning, whether you have an "OP" deck or not, is almost equal. This game has a huge LUCK factor. Triggers are the game changing point of the game. The outcome is very unpredictable.

Well, it seems this game just started a while ago, I would not keep buying or selling anymore cards that involves this "Vanguard" card game. Because from where I lived, Some card games did not make it and ran out of buisness. There was once a game called "Duel Masters" long time ago, I bought some cards and played it myself, but 1-2 years later, nobody plays it, no tournaments, no online, no more new cards. If I were you I would give some time on this card game until it goes big. If you keep spending and selling all your cards for Vanguard, and it goes out of buisness, then you might as well lost alot of money and cards. Just some Advice because I seen some card games that did not make it, so just dont sell/buy your Yugioh or Vanguard cards. Pretty much right now the Top leading card games are now Yugioh and Magic.

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Cardfight Vanguard or Yugioh?

which tcg / card game do u think is better between yugioh or cardfight vanguard?

cardfight vanguard its more fair less expensive and has a just as big player base i quit yugioh for vanguard and don't regret it at all everything about vanguard is perfect yugioh is broken beyond belief and just wants to take ur money .in vanguard a starter deck can win a tournament !!! u wont need to blow hundreds on dollars on a deck

The Yu-gi oh cards these days are pretty rare but if you started a long long time ago you would have the bests card and pretty rare cards.Also if you started before then the prices of the actual cards ae much lower than what you estimated just now.And CHEAPER cards as you say it is can actually stand a chance with the proper spell cards and trap cards,SO they DO stand a chance.Rare cards were released a long time ago so it would be hard to find rare ones now.

But Vanguard in MY opinion is JUST catching up to Yu-gi-oh they're not on the same level

Dueling since: 2005

Entered the fray on: Jan 2014

Whats better, hrm.. answer is VANGUARD, cmon, its the best game around, you cant find a more intense game than this ,

For now, yugion still getting a player of 120k ppl ( in TCO, For ppl who likes to play all card gamee, search for it, ull love it ) and vanguard have about 98k (this is local, not international x.x ) Yugion started in 19-- while vanguard started in 2011, you can see he huge difrent about their time, and vanguard is still advancing (even though he season 5 is kinda a player choice)

Just to be quick,

Based from players , yugion win for now, but not for long. I believe vanguard will catch up

Based on gaming, vanguard was much more simple

Based on fun and intencity, vanguard is really good, and bushiroad really care about customers xD

Based on fairness on decks usage, vanguard got less unrated decks, in yugion, u will keep seeing players with those op decks, while in vanguard. Theres no such thing as op, a season 1 deck can win vs a season 4 decks.

Gaming is really fun, but vanguards really makes a game fun

I prefer Cardfight!! Vanguard.

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Really? Today? Cardfight! Vanguard is out for over a year now. It even has 2 seasons of anime. As for the game, i believe its inferior compared to YuGiOh. It has lesser no. of possible strategies plus it just has monsters, and monster effects. it will continue as long as the anime is running. Hmm, as for the deck did you try the Dragonic Overlord trial deck??

I agree with FR Capsule. Vanguard is growing and only getting more popular. I've been playing YGO for a while but Vanguard is something special. I guess whatever is popular where you are.

IMO: Vanguard is cheaper and a $20 trial deck is ready to play in tournaments.

The benefits of each are dependent on your preference.

Let's analyze minimal cost to buy a deck:

Yu-Gi-Oh! requires between 40-60 cards. If the rarity of the cards are all Common ($0.25 each), then a deck can be built for as cheap as $10.

Vanguard requires exactly 50 cards. Again, if they are all Commons, then that would equal $12.50. Yu-Gi-Oh! seems cheaper initially, right?

Now let's consider competitiveness of those decks. Very few decks in Yu-Gi-Oh! can be built with all commons and win a tournament round, and those that can usually have Staples which can typically cost a minimum of $1. Assume 5 Staples in the deck, and your deck now costs $13.75 minimum, already putting you over Cardfight by $1.25. Next, those decks tend to require an Extra Deck which most decks need a minimum of 5 cards (maximum allowed is 15) in the ED in order to be slightly "competitive." Basic Extra Deck cards cost about $1-$5 each. We'll say $1.50 per for this example, however, this may not be the case with some decks. 5 cards in the extra deck at $1.50 would bring the cost up to $21.25.

Cardfight is different though. For $21.25, you can get a deck's full set of (typically) common Grade 0s for a total of $4.25. Your balance now is $17. Now you have 33 more cards to buy. A decent playable deck can actually be made out of all commons that cost only a quarter. So this means you don't HAVE to spend more than a total of $12.50. But let's say you want to maximize the deck's potential by using the rest of the money. You have $17 to spend on 33 cards. We'll say you buy 18 commons ($4.50). You have $12.50 to spend on 15 cards remaining. If you buy 10 Rares (R) at $0.50 each (their actual average value), you still have $7.50 to use on 5 cards. Let's say you're trying to pick up a Triple Rare (RRR) card. RRRs cost between $5-$25 typically. Let's say you get a RRR for $5. You still have $2.50 to spend on 4 cards. You can pick now. Buy 1 Double Rare (RR: $1-$5) and 3 R, or buy 2 RR and 2 Common? Either way, that would finish off your money.

Really, The point being made there is this: Yu-Gi-Oh! is a game where you HAVE to spend money so that you have options for your deck. Vanguard is a game where you CHOOSE to spend money to get better cards. The difference between the two games is simply that. Yu-Gi-Oh! is a game where buying is compulsory for improvement and Vanguard is optional. They CAN both be expensive, but really, only Yu-Gi-Oh! IS expensive. Common decks with no Extra Deck or Staples get obliterated quickly in Yu-Gi-Oh!, but my first tournament with a Vanguard Common deck resulted in my winning 2 of the 5 rounds: something that will never happen in Yu-Gi-Oh! unless you build a very specific deck.