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Just curious about how people feel about ther training? jujitsu?
Here is a link to this jujitsu
Just to be clear. This is not something new. It was a demo. But there is more to the training. I don't know when they started posting so you can purchase. It wasn't like that years ago.
Please explain what you are calling flashy?
Is it flashy because you haven't done it? You don't understand it? or because it was deceptive? some other reason?
It's not mma. They actually teach self defense. These people aren't preparing to fight in the UFC. The 1st video was a demo. It not flashy. My definition of flashy is just putting on a show. Everything done was done for a reason. The 2nd video there was some sparring.
There are video for teaching beginners.
Video for testing.
I don't agree with all of the testing, but that's just my opinion. If I were in their school I'd go through the test. They actual train for weapons defense, multiple attackers. The guy made mistake with the multiple attackers, but that's real world. You will make some mistakes, but you better know how to recover. The blindfold bring back some memories. In my dojo our multiple attackers is more hardcore IMO.
By the way a lot of you bash aikido, but in aikido they use many of the same techniques.
I didn't give anyone a thumbs down. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion whether I agree or disagree. Often the thumbs down is a cowardice type of action IMO. I will disagree with callsign that anything was taken from bjj. BJJ didn't invent the knee bar. Neither did Sambo. Where did Sambo come from? Judo which came from jujutsu. Things that you are calling flashy is how they train. That is not for beginners. You don't have to be an athlete to do it, just well trained. While I might be something that I wouldn't do, but I see the relevance because of its deceptive nature. It hide the intent of artist. It is very clever as most people do not prepare for such thing because they don't see it. I never said the BJJ or MMA do not teach self defense. Some do and some don't. Some that claim they do only is garbage for self defense but great at the sport. Even Gracie I forget which one. He was teaching self defense and bully defense on some video. It was horribl
Callsign my statement weren't directed at you are anyone in particular. It was just a general statement. But I do give you credit for stating what you believe an why.
The demo was just that a demo on what you will find in their dojo. Not just marketing. Yes it will look impressive to some, but it will intimidate many more. Many people will believe they can't do that. They might think yo have to be some world class athlete to perform those techniques. They would not even find out what the school is about.
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- Darth ScandalousLv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
I did a little research on Corbell a few years ago and found that he uses Yoga principles to enhance his Jujutsu skills. If you understand the dynamics of yoga, you can see how a long term practitioner can use these dynamics within his art.
I'm a percussionist and I find that kata rhythm is like percussion and vice-versa. With me, the two - ti and music meld naturally. No need for me to mix them. They are both part of me.
Naturally, Jeremy Corbell's skill is going to manifest both. He took it a little further and devised a system. This is "Quantum Jujutsu", not anything else.
There are a lot of charlatans out there and he is not one of them.
Check his background.
- SiFu frankLv 68 years ago
I found it very good and interesting. If I were younger and looking for a Judo school and they were close enough I would check them out. We don't teach many of the things shown mostly because we are not a Judo school. Some of the things are close to what we teach for self defense and disarming methods.
We find blindfolds useful mainly for the reason touch can be reacted to faster than sight. It also helps sharpen your other senses.
Of course for demonstrations you always want to present your stuff that looks dramatic, or at least cool enough to get someone to say wow I'd like to learn to do that. Otherwise what is the point of a demo.
Source(s): life - Anonymous5 years ago
Many people feel like that when they start. Give yourself a break. As you stated, you have only been to three classes. I trained for several years before I felt like I was beginning to get it right. Lately I have been helping out at a karate class. One student has been a white belt for years. He keeps coming, but is always saying that he does not think that he will ever get to his first belt. The guy is in his mid 50's. Yet when other quit, he continued to come to class. Last week he was awarded his yellow belt. Now he says that he does not feel like he earned it. At the same time he is encouraged and is working even harder than ever. Quitting never got anyone anywhere. Hang in there. I believe that you can do it. Just take it one day at a time. The other students know how hard it can be to get going. Best of Luck!
- 8 years ago
Based on what I've perceived in the past, usually the more reliant a school is on demonstrations/flow drills/etc the less they actually have to offer in terms of real fight training. Every moment one spends practicing some flashy demo move, the less time they've spent training something useful. The best demonstration I've seen so far was a Kyokushin demo. A group of students presented some Kata, then everybody in the demo showed the audience what all out Kumite looked like. Spoke volumes of the school, I may actually make the drive to try it sometime.
Source(s): Experience, Moderator of thecageddojo.boards.net forums founded by Y!A Top Contributors. - callsignfuzzyLv 78 years ago
Well, that was a demo, not an example of training. It's not uncommon to put the flashiest things you can in a demo, where as the bulk of classes contain far fewer exotic movements.
It looks to be the XMA version of jujitsu, and I'd say there's some MMA and sport BJJ influence in the movements.
It's hardly a great example of efficiency of movement. Going out of your way to cartwheel into your opponent when a punch or trip would have sufficed is about looking flashy, not putting the guy down.
Edit- I assume your second edit was largely directed at me. I think if you'd read my answer instead of skimming it, your response would have been different. For example:
"It's not mma"
And if you'll read my initial response, you will see that I obviously never said it was. What I said was that the demo looked *influenced* by MMA. For example, that rolling kneebar is pure Sambo. It's certainly not traditional JJ. Sambo was by and large exposed to the world via MMA; Oleg Taktarov, in early UFC events, would go for said leglock. Furthermore, their sparring is identical to the sparring you'd see in an MMA gym. I would like to address some of your other points in that statement before continuing.
"They actually teach self defense. These people aren't preparing to fight in the UFC"
You're assuming that MMA does not teach self defense, which is wrong, and that everyone who takes MMA is trying to get into the UFC, which is also wrong. Most people get into MMA to get into better shape or, get this, to pick up some self-defense skills. And it can and does serve that purpose. Even "sport"-oriented MMA teaches you basic skills of unarmed combat and how to defend against said skills (punches, kicks, clinch fighting, ground fighting, chokes, etc). I think you'd be surprised at the number of MMA gyms that teach non "sport-MMA" classes; local gyms here teach Kali, JKD, and Krav Maga in addition to their MMA program, which may include non-stereotypical systems such as Wing Chun, Taekwondo, and Hapkido.
"It not flashy. My definition of flashy is just putting on a show."
And my definition of "flashy" was presented above. And, as a demo, by the way, the entire purpose is by definition TO PUT ON A SHOW. But what I'm pointing out in particular is doing high-risk movements that require a lot of athleticism, or simply doing five moves when one will be fine. The demo was clearly meant to show a lot of dynamic movement, and it did that well, but rarely will you see anyone actually try to fight like that. I counted no fewer than five incidences of a guy getting completely airborne before locking on a submission, which is the martial arts equivalent of a Rube Goldberg machine. It's cool-looking but risky: there's no way to stabilize your position mid-air, you have far less control over the opponent than if you'd already had them pinned, and the risk of bouncing your own skull off the ground is extraordinarily high. The demo opened with the guy doing a Capoeira-style cartwheel kick, and included just, frankly, a lot of unnecessary movement. It was flashy.That's now what you do when you're trying to beat someone quickly and efficiently. Rather, it's what you do when you want to make grappling cool for the camera.
"By the way a lot of you bash aikido, but in aikido they use many of the same techniques"
A few points: A) The fact that they share the same movements doesn't exactly bolster any positive feelings; B) They do not use "many" of the same movements, but rather three or four- I recognized kote gaeshi, a sankyo wrist lock, and a kind of half-assed irimi nage during the black belt test; C) My criticism of Aikido is rarely of the techniques, but rather focuses on the training methods. Running at a guy from 20 feet away with your arms outstretched, grabbing his wrist (instead of an actual HAOV), then hanging on for dear life while getting tossed around like a leaf in a hurricane hardly mimics the violence one is likely to encounter outside of the dojo.
Source(s): To say that Sambo comes from Judo is a gross oversimplification; it included Slavic wrestling systems & American Catch wrestling (Sonnon, "Mastering Sambo for MMA", 2008) I own a number of Judo and JJ manuals. Out of 9 Judo and JJ books dating from 1905 to 1987 that include leglocks, NONE show the kneebar. The straight ankle lock is most common, with knee-twisting locks and belly-down/Boston Crab-like holds shown. I haven't said that Sambo invented the kneebar, but there's no evidence that the kneebar existed in classic JJ or Judo, and since Sambo was influenced by sources outside of Judo/JJ, it's likely that the kneebar comes from some obscure Slavic style, or was an independent invention. I can also say that I own no classic JJ material that shows flying submissionshowever, flying attacks have become more popular in BJJ. - 8 years ago
My daughter does Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I train Muay Thai kickboxing... they are both greats sports!