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To all White Christians who believe that modern day "jews" are the "chosen people"...?
How can you believe such an abomination??? Don't you know that you are BETTER OFF being an Atheist than to believe in the religion THIS HORRIBLY WRONG?????
How can you logically believe that THOSE people are the Israelites? Genetic evidence PROVES that the modern day "jews" CANNOT be the true Israelites. While the evidence DOES INDEED point to the modern day White man as being the true Israelites!!!!
Until I found this out, I was an agnostic and I got the feeling from God that I was better off NOT believing than to believe wrong!
Once I found the REAL TRUTH it made more sense than anything I'd ever heard and that is when I started believing!!!
But even as a believer... I still wonder why some people would rather believe a distorted truth just to believe SOMETHING than to just accept that something's wrong and you might never know.
No Gregory... They are FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMING to be the people described in the Torah. The people described in the Bible are the White people!
@ keyjona: That is total horse sh!t! Africans are NOT Israelites. Israelites can't be mixed either so that contradicts what you just said.
@ Poohcat1: Satan would love you for that condescending comment. White people are the Israelites and that doesn't mean that god doesn't love everybody. God loved everybody. I didn't say anything about hating or anything like that. So just keep your ignorant comments to yourself!
@ Atarah:
Genetic analysis shows that jews are mixed blood. According to the bible, one must be %100 Israelite and not mixed to still be an Israelite.
In the bible it talks about a Character named "Amalek". Amalek took many women including Israelites and started his own clan from his mixed descendants. They would frequently attack the Israelite people.
The Israelite people were commanded SEVERAL TIMES to "destroy the seed of Amalek"
Israel DOES INDEED have Blood descendents and they are the modern day European people.
The Israelites were commanded to leave Israel in Jeremiah and they settled Europe.
God made the ice sheets that covered Europe recede so that the real Israelite could have a place to go after they were kicked out.
Modern day "jews" are a genetically diverse YET INBRED group of people. Genetic analysis shows that they come from one or few man and MANY EUROPEAN WOMEN!!!
While Europe has different groups of large healthy populations wh
@ robb: What exactly did you study??? Did you study the Torah? or the Hebrew Bible? Or did you study the BULLSH!T that they added???? like the "oral torah" or the "talmud"???
The "oral torah" and the "talmud" is nothing more than commentary that these FAKE Israelites added to the religion!!!!! They felt they needed to add something because it wasn't their book that they came across and they had to somehow try to make it their own.
If you want to talk about the Torah or the Hebrew Bible, those are the books of MY PEOPLE, NOT THEIRS. And for them to CLAIM that they are God's people WHEN THEY ARE NOT IS A HUGE SIN!!!!!!!
Their abomination is known as "rabbinic judaism" and it "...has been the mainstream form of Judaism since the 6th century CE..." "...became the predominant stream within the Jewish diaspora between the 2nd and 6th centuries"
... so basically, their bullsh!t is a lot newer than you think. T
@ Atarah: Yes, Ruth was a Moabite. And Moses even took am Midianite wife!!!
Why is this? Because the Midianites and Moabites were both White!
No they weren't part of "Israel" at the time, but they were racially the same. The Bible made it very clear that SOME women from SOME groups could be integrated into the Israelite population. THIS WAS BASED ON RACE!!!!!!
I relate these stories both to people who tell me " I'm not White, I'm mixed because I'm half Polish and half German" Or to who are believers who want to marry an Atheist.... which is perfectly fine as long as they are the same race.
And race is NOT "skin color". I can't believe that people are really that stupid to believe that race is just "skin color". Do you really believe that????? I don't even think that the people who push that lie actually believe it!!!!
@ Kevin7: The whole idea of "maternal linage" is complete BULLSH!T!!!! This comes from the "talmud".
You can't just "convert" to judisim. Again, that BULLSH!T idea comes from the "talmud".
The "oral torah" and the "talmud" is nothing more than commentary that these FAKE Israelites added to the religion!!!!! It's a SIN that they added this garbage to books which weren't even theirs to begin with!!!!!!!!
23 Answers
- 8 years ago
" White" Christians?" Why would that make a difference to most here in how one thinks as to your comment?
God chooses people by their heart condition that was shown even in the Hebrew Scriptures. As a group he was showing them favor than because they were mostly the ones giving the one true God devotion. Who's "heart" was toward him . They were not saved just being a Jew and no other reason.
You error in your thinking there
And what evidence is that "Proves This" ( them being the chosen--your post) are you talking about?
- Ambi valentLv 78 years ago
It's hard to know where to start.....
1. Jewishness is not now, nor has it ever been, a racial matter. I've no idea what mis-reading you've managed to do of the Tanakh to come to notions about 'mixed race' not being allowed etc, but it ain't in any Hebrew text I know of.
2. The injunction against Amalek isn't a racial matter. It's about the horrors perpetrated on the Jewish people by him.
3. Your logic, even within its own distorted and bizarre assumptions, leaves something to be desired. Since Jewishness comes through the mother (everyone knows that), if you (wrongly) believe that the Jews are descended from one or two men you are willing to count as Jewish and many European women - er, doesn't that make them Jewish by your definition that the Jews are white Europeans?
4. I am glad to say that Judaism and the Jewish people see no issue around skin colour of any sort. Jewishness comes from being born to a Jewish mother or converting (both make one equally Jewish). Full stop.
- Kevin7Lv 78 years ago
Modern genetics does prove most Jews come from ethnic groups with an ultimate predominant origin in Israel. A person born to a Jewish mother is just as Jewish as a convert to Judaism
- ✡mama pajama✡Lv 78 years ago
Your unhealthy obsession with Jews and to lie about Jews in such an insulting and illogical manner might be better helped if you sought the advice of a mental health professional. In the meantime, I'll take the opportunity to use your irrational ravings to show for any actually interested, that to insult Jews for the Christian redefinition of "chosen people" is as illogical as it is to try to redefine Jewish identity from the Torah's critera that is still used today as it was in ancient times.
The world's Jews, a multi-racial, multi-ethnic eternal covenant nation people, still exist intact around the world, as a light unto the nations in striving to live our covenant with God. Am Yisrael Chai. This answer is incomplete without the past answers below:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=At.vd... < "chosen people" only means "superior" to those who promote notions of "white supremacy" or a replacement theology. That notion violates Torah and Judaism.
Two recent past answers on Jewish identity that is still determined as it was in the time of Moses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkxG3...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Anj2u...
Stop the Jew hate and seek help.
Source(s): I'm a former Director of Education at a small synagogue. Am Yisrael Chai. ( the people Yisrael live) to the chagrin of those who harbor irrational hatreds. Shalom y'all. - How do you think about the answers? You can sign in to vote the answer.
- Bobby JimLv 78 years ago
Romans 9 might be a good reading for you to undertake.
Romans 9:6-7 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. "
The rest of the passage is vitally important. While we Gentiles have been grafted in to the family of God via adoption of sons, Israel is still God's chosen people. Of particular note are the 144,000 of Revelation 7 and 14. They are 12,000 individuals from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel. What you have been taught is referred to as "Replacement Theology," with the church replacing God's chosen people in modern times. The Bible reveals these teachings to be heresy. One does not have to be an expert in genetics... God knows who belongs to which Tribes, and that's all that matters.
As long as the earth spins on its axis, God will be faithful to His covenant:
Jeremiah 33:20-21 " Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season; [Then] may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers. "
Source(s): The people of the Old Testament are not white. They are Semitic...Middle Easterners who are olive complected with dark hair and eyes. Neither white, nor black, they are sons and daughters of Abram, from Ur in the region of the Chaldeans. Think "Baghdad." <>< - 8 years ago
Your argument is with God. He chose the people he wanted to bring back to Israel.
If He has brought back the wrong people, then please let Him know. You know how embarrassed He gets when He makes mistakes. Or are you mistaken? I don't know if you are intelligent enough to read the Bible and understand it. There are many works out there that can help in the understanding of the biblical texts. If you think Talmudic judaism sucks and has nothing to do with God, you are pretty accurate in that. But the Bible clearly says that the "Jews"(whoever they are) will be brought back in unbelief and then THEY will be the ones who call back Jesus of Nazareth. I didn't write it. But I do read it. And I believe it. It is a Jew that paid the price of my redemption. I am blessed beyond what I deserve when I bless Israel.
- ?Lv 68 years ago
Rather than speaking to white, *****, south american I would rather query are the people that call themselves the Jews correct. The book says that God will return His people to the holy land on wings of eagles from every corner of the earth to which they have been scattered....So I 'm seeing two things that line up with the event that happened in 1948. There were no wings of eagles...Men took a group of people who were called Jews and stuffed them onto trains and sent them to Isreal...Secondly they did not collect all of the jews from all corners of the world, just from germany and russia......Could this be a fake? Are these the ones "who call themselves jews but are actuall the synagogue of satan?" Only time will tell...stay tuned to this same bat channel
- Atarah DerekLv 78 years ago
Please direct me to this so-called "genetic evidence." After all, last I checked, Jacob did not leave any DNA samples.
Israel DOES have blood descendants. If he did not, God's promise would be broken. And since, according to the first chapter of John, the universe is literally woven out of God's promises, for God to break one of His promises would rip a hole in time and space far larger than Peter Davison's theoretical Belgium. Yet we're all still here. Ergo, God keeps His promises. Thus Israel has biological descendants somewhere in the world today.
And since my entire identity rests upon the promises of God, I am obligated to support His people, the Jews.
"The people described in the Bible are the White people!"
I really want to headdesk that assertion, but I think it would be better to give you a link to a Wikipedia article on melanin and skin color distribution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color
Note that on the chart, Israel is solidly within the Mediterranean olive shade.
Edit: Well, that counts David out. He was 1/4 Moabite. And thus you once again call God a liar, as He promised David's line would continue into eternity. So I guess it's a darn good thing you're lying through your teeth about there being a passage in the Bible that says Israelites must be purebred to be Israelites.
- beren andresLv 58 years ago
I'm not sure I follow your argument. First time I have ever heard that white people are the "chosen."
Honestly, most white people do carry themselves as though they are better than anyone else, but I think any group who believes it is "chosen by God" is committing the sin of pride. Such a God would not be genuinely universal if "He/She" had to select only a segment of humanity to align with.
- robbLv 68 years ago
I am an ex Christian who has studied Judaism for several years and have yet to find anything that leads me to believe Judaism is "horribly wrong". On the other hand, your understanding of Judaism is so messed up that it is safe to say that you know nothing about it.
What I can't figure is if you honestly believe this garbage, or if you somehow get off on appearing to be this messed up.