Why do atheists ask for people to prove that God exists when faith is not a claim in the first place?

You seem to think that it is bad that evidence is falsifiable? Do you understand the meaning of the word falsifiable in science? It means that even if the evidence cannot be tested to determine that it is true - it can at least be tested to determine whether or not it is false.

Belief is defined as accepting something as true without supporting evidence.

If you want me to "believe" as you do, then you must at least show me some evidence which convinces me that what you say is not false. I may not agree that it is a true or correct conclusion but I cannot be convinced by nothing more than unsupported statements.

Thus far you have only convinced me that you are a sloppy thinker. Complaining that I ask for evidence is a red herring. You have no evidence. Therefore I do not recognize your claims as reasonable or logical because what is asserted without evidence is not worthy of debate.

If I tell you that there is a criminal under the bed, or in the hall, or in the closet, you might reasonably think that it is a possible threat. If a child tells you that there is a monster under the bed, do you immediately accept that the child is giving you true or accurate information? Might it not be a game or misperception?

Accepting that the child Believes that there is a monster under the bed does not make the child right. If the person claiming there is a threat under the bed is not a child, we may be less quick to dismiss the claim, but we still reasonably do not accept the claim without some reason or evidence to think it is true or plausible.

Your mistake is to assume that the claim of an all powerful all knowing entity who is imperceptible should seem reasonable. Why? If the being is not perceptible then how do you know it is there? If you say I should accept what you say as true because you merely hope that it is there - that is not enough for me.

What you "hope" is not real enough for me to accept as a basis for my entire life. It may be enough for you but that is your choice, I need something real and I don't care how much you rant about it - What you hope is still not enough to convince me.

"#1) What makes evidence fact in the first place? Especially since it can be falsified.

#2) You cannot say for certain that something does not exist simply because there is no evidence. You say "I don't know." Otherwise, you are claiming to know something that isn't knowable. You can assume that it does not exist, but assumption is not fact."

1) Evidence can obviously be refuted, but until it is, it is credible and it contributes.

2)God is untrue until proven otherwise. Its a logical stance. "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence", the burden of proof lies on the believer, not the skeptic.

I obviously can't say for certain that god doesn't exist, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't. Theres a possibility that the Flying Duckling of Kumbaya exists, but since it was asserted without evidence, I can dismiss it without evidence.

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""God is untrue until proven otherwise. Its a logical stance."

WRONG! It is not knowable"

I addressed this issue in my second paragraph. Learn how to read man.

"I cannot say that pink unicorns don't exist on another planet in deep space."

Yes you can, you can say "It's untrue UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE", or "I don't know".

Im not denying the possibility.

The people you are talking about are agnostic, atheists accept that there is 100% not a god. You have to supply evidence to your claims, the burden of proving or disproving something does fall on the shoulders of the skeptic, it falls on the shoulders of the person making the claims. For instance I could say that I am a pink unicorn, but you can't prove that I am not so I must be a pink unicorn.

Your first assertion is absolutely not true. I've known people who claim that every word spoken in the bible is fact, and that everything they believe is fact. They say things like "You're denying absolute facts that if you don't believe in god you won't go to heaven" and stuff like that. For me, at least, THAT'S why I would require evidence that he exists. When it goes past the point of just being a belief system it's going too far.

You're clutching at straw and trying to play semantic games (and failing). The total lack of evidence makes the fact that god does not exist most likely, when you have some evidence come back, then we'll talk

Noooo, Christians claim that they are CERTAIN that Jesus is present in their lives. In fact, it is a vital component of their faith. They MUST accept Jesus in order to enter heaven. That is not "I don't know but I think"

And no, one cannot say for certain that something does not exist. That is simple logic. However, if you make an extraordinary claim, such as the existence of some invisible entity, it is incombant on YOU to provide some evidence. If not, that same simple logic says that we should reject the claim.

I mean god is real there's evidence if you basically read the bible god scriptures go exactly with human life and what people do today the best example is 7 deadly sins which everyone commits nd the 7 sins arnt un forgivable but a sin man and women commit the most out of all plus if you actually take the time to worship you will see things you never seen be for things that change your life and I'm not going to lie I've seen evil spirits no joke and I'm talking about at age 12 and 8 and I'm only 16 so I'm not saying I'm a know it all plus why do scientists believe in evolution basically they proved it wrong like if a ape could change into a human that means chromosomes multiplied which can't happen but also plus don't forget oooo mutation how it helps them live but in the unit of genetics sciencests say that mutations are just there and give no beneficial factor like and it not just faith in why I know god is real but that first time I felt the holy spirit and burst out crying it was like I just burst out of joy and happiness but also how when I was held down by the devil I prayed and god saved me and released this one is real like my great great grandma she was told she wouldn't be able to walk no more nd but she's walking nd she said she prayed to god started dancing she's funny u should meet her lol but just try like devote your self try to talk to him and even if you feel u talking to no one just ignore that pray and and god for help not something for greed -__- but know u have to work for that blessing its not gonna be like bam wahlaah here u go I believe in god and I know he's real not just because of faith but how I prayed and my life was xhanged and others that I loved

They do not! They could care less unless a Christian makes claims for one and then they challenge the Christian to come up with evidence they are not making a totally false claim!

They do so because no one should have to tolerate being persecuted with false claims and because they know all the evidence of history says the Christian claims are false!

Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.

The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!

There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!

There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?

Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!

At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!

Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?

Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!

Josephus AD 37 – AD 100

Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120

Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD

Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD

Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD

Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.

Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD

Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD

Photius AD 877 – 886 AD

Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.

Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!

Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.

My question for you is. What is the answer to this question? Is the answer you choose the one you like the most or is going to be decided by the voters?

Anyway back to your question. Personally a belief can't be proven wrong or right. As Nietzsche once said "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith proves nothing." And therefore nothing proves faith.

More often than not I hear people proclaim they KNOW with absolute certainty that God exists.

You are splitting hairs with "'God does not exist' is not a valid statement at all." I hear theists say all the time "God exists." Should we also ask them if they are making a declaration or stating what they 'BELIEVE'?

Anyway, most atheists are what is called 'Agnostic Atheists'. Meaning they do not believe at all, but do not say with certainty that they know.