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Why are the English referred to as a mongrel race?
If it was a true statement, then perhaps it could be justified, but it is nothing but a falsity.
The English people are made up primarily of Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Norse and Norman stock, these groups are not seperate races, they all come from the same patch of Europe, and are of course all part of the European race.
Genetic research has proven that 75% of the British population can trace their genetic heritage back at least 15,000 years to the Basque country - where the Celts originate from. Considering less than 85% of the population is actually ethnically British (English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh) this is remarkable and shows the homogeneity of the (actual ethnic) British people.
Furthermore, it has been proven that the argument that we are a nation of immigrant has been proven false - immigration to Britain between the years 1066 and the 1960's was miniscule - consisting of just a few thousand Huguenots. The Irish who came were not immigrants as for over 400 years Ireland was a part of the UK (not the Empire), and were of the same genetic makeup as the Brits.
Finally the other commonly employed argument, that we all came from Africa, was dispelled yesterday, with an archaeological find dispelling this myth, at least with regard to the European race.
The point of this? The (ethnic) British should not be demonized for celebrating their heritage and worse, the extreme left and political class should not deny the existence of what is fact. All it does is alienate the ethnic Brits and creates intolerance and animosity towards the British nationals (those of immigrant descent) who quite rightly are also allowed to celebrate their heritage.
So, Ethnic Brits should be allowed to celebrate their heritage - just as the Indian, African, Caribbean communities are - this would help promote true cultural awareness and mutual understanding and respect.
Agree?
Any evidence for that, Faisal?
You've completely missed the point David. Firstly, there is nothing racist in discussing the matter - however the very term 'mongrel race' is arguably racist to the ethnically British. Secondly, we do not have a 'history' of what you stated, immigration as we know it started in the 1960's, England has existed as a unified country since 927AD.
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- StevenLv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
So much rubbish here,but as a palaeontologist this is the worst,
"Genetic research has proven that 75% of the British population can trace their genetic heritage back at least 15,000 years to the Basque country -",
why because it TOTALLY disagrees with your previous statement
"English people are made up primarily of Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Norse and Norman stock, these groups are not seperate races, they all come from the same patch of Europe"
ALSO
15,000 years ago very few people lived in the UK, as we where covered in ice !!
Also, science disagrees with you, the human occupation of the British isles happened several times, as the ice sheet moved, but generally we came from the germanic tribes across dogger bank. Wit hthe las tmigration around 11,000 years ago...on the east anglian coast !!
but please xplain how we are both a mixture of these northern europena tribes AND 3/4 come form the iberian coast???
LMAO
I've attached some links to help you, but hey what do scientists know, eh !?
Source(s): http://ahobproject.org/About.php http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jul/07/firs... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5317762.stm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_th... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_settlemen... - 8 years ago
That 75% figure has been questioned by many figures in the field, Oppenheimer himself who wrote the study admitted there may be flaws. Genetic studies have revealed that there are large genetic differences between many Welsh and English people. The English are, as you say a hybrid of Anglo-Saxons, Norse and Celts all Northern European tribes with similar cultures (though not languages.)
The term mongrel race isn't one I'd use to describe English people today but I would say we are a mix of different people. Also I think its worth pointing out the difference between peaceful immigration (as the Irish, the Jamaicans have done) and forceful invasion (Anglo-Saxons,the Norse) have done.
- 8 years ago
England has been invaded so many times that means English people are Mongrels there has been intermarriages of different ancient peoples over the years English people have ancestry from other parts of the UK and also Southern Europe Northern Europe Western Europe Central Europe South East Europe and Eastern Europe English people also have Sub Sahara African and Middle Eastern ancestry the Romans where Mongrels themselves not every Roman was Italian Romans come from all over the place the majority of English people like other British people have Pre Celtic ancestry English people are mostly Celtic like 75% only 5% of English people are Germanic the Celts where from Central Austria Angels Saxons and Jutes came from Northern Germany and Southern Denmark the Vikings and the Normans where from Norway Sweden and Denmark the Angels Saxons Jutes Vikings and Normans where basically Russian but English people are not Slavic they are Mongrels.
- 5 years ago
I dislike that word intensely as properly. like numerous places the British Isles have had some invasions and migrations. the biggest words there are like numerous places. analyzing the historyof Europe, all of us with a million/2 a suggestions would desire to work out this. attempt telling a Frenchmen he's a mongrel and this by some skill provides him no say because of the fact France had pre-celtic/celtic contract,plusRomans, Franks, Vikings and Britons (in Brittany).Or that Spaniards could fortunately cede any declare on their very very own us of a because of the fact they have had over the years Basques, pre-celtic Iberians, celts,Romans,Phoenicians, Goths, Moors.
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- ?Lv 58 years ago
I suppose that, if you are going to be racist about it, we should be referred to as a mongrel nation and not a mongrel race. Britain has a proud history of accepting oppressed immigrants and those who come here to become British and work, whilst retaining their own cultural elements.
It is sad that we now seem to have acquired a population of ingrates who who feel that they have the right to lord it over the very people who allowed them to come here. However, they are fighting a losing battle and will eventually evolve to become their own version of British like the rest of us. Otherwise, why stay?
- 8 years ago
Pure jealousy and envy from cowardly little halfwits with a severe inferiority complex from nations with few achievements if any, as well as scumbag traitor politicians promoting there own personal agendas. But the tide is beginning to turn on our scumbag politicians.
James Crawley Maximus Meridius
Do you realise you sound like rain man.
- tomLv 68 years ago
It's all about identity. People will go back as far as they need to to prove they are British, or others aren't British, or whatever.
You talk to the BNP and ask them how far back you have to prove Britishness. Then you find out that many black people have direct white male line descendants, and does that make them British.
The BNP would say no. Any person who is black would not be accepted as British by them.
You realize it's impossible, futile and a waste of time trying to prove who is and who isn't. Better to just accept people for what they say they are.