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Clock Puzzle: A regular analogue clock...?

A regular analogue clock has a 'minute' hand and an 'hour' hand which rotate at constant angular speeds - 1 rev per hour and 1/12 rev per hour respectively.

How many times between 3:00 pm and 12:00 am can the the two hands be swapped so that the clock face displays another time that is also inside this 9 hour time period?

What are those times?

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Hint:

Clearly 3:30 is *not* such a time as there is no such time where the 'minute' hand points *directly* at the 3 whilst the 'hour' hand points *directly* at the 6.

Update:

Wow! Thank you!

Both excellent answers!

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  • 8 years ago
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    Clearly, when the hands coincide, it works.

    That occurs once per hour,

    around 3:16, 4:21, 5:27, 6:33, 7:38, 8:44, 9:49, 10:55, and 11:60 (better known as 12:00).

    (9 times).

    Slightly more precise (1 second resolution), but not quite the times are

    3:16:22

    4:21:49

    5:27:16

    6:32:44

    7:38:11

    8:43:38

    9:49:05

    10:54:33

    It's quite tricky to calculate if other times work as well.

    Between 3 and 12, the hour hand is ... between 3 and 12 (of course)

    which means we are only interested in minutes between 15 and 60 (or 0).

    If we make the 12 equal to 0 degrees, then

    1 2 3 . . . . 9 10 11 represent

    30 60 90 ... 270 300 330 degrees.

    The minute hand advances at 6° per minute,

    and the hour hand advances at 1/2° per minute.

    At m minutes past h hour,

    the minute hand is at 6m °

    the hour hand is at (30h + m/2) °

    Consider the 3:00 to 3:59 hour.

    During that time, the hour hand is between 3 and 4,

    which if it were the minute hand would represent

    15 to 20 minutes past the hour.

    If the minute hand is between 4 and 5,

    then swapping them represents times between 4:15 and 4:20.

    Let m = minutes past 4:00.

    h degrees = 120 + m/2

    m degrees = 6m (m between 15 and 20, m degrees between 90 and 120).

    If we swap them, we have a time between 3:20 and 3:25.

    And we want to find p such that

    120 + m/2 = 6p and

    6m = 90 + p/2

    240 + m = 12p

    144m = 2160 + 12p

    240 + m = 144m - 2160

    143m = 2400

    m = 16.78

    At 4:16.78 minute hand is at 100.68 degrees,

    and the hour hand is at 128.39 degrees.

    Reversing those gives a time of 3:21.4 which also corresponds to those degrees.

    Then rather than solve such an equation for every 5-minute interval,

    I resorted to a program, which prints out times when it is "close".

    Here is the output:

    note on the left of the -> is hh:mm:ss

    and on the right it's hh:mm.fraction of a minute

    There are 45 on this list.

    I computed them using 1 second intervals.

    It may be that for exact accuracy you need sub-second

    computations ... and I also computed within a tolerance

    of 0.05 degrees.

    It might be the case that they don't work exactly.

    1. 3:16:22 -> 3:16.36

    2. 3:21:24 -> 4:16.78

    3. 3:26:26 -> 5:17.20

    4. 3:31:28 -> 6:17.62

    5. 3:36:30 -> 7:18.04

    6. 3:41:32 -> 8:18.46

    7. 3:46:34 -> 9:18.88

    8. 3:51:36 -> 10:19.30

    9. 3:51:37 -> 10:19.30

    10. 3:56:39 -> 11:19.72

    11. 4:21:49 -> 4:21.82

    12. 4:26:51 -> 5:22.24

    13. 4:31:53 -> 6:22.66

    14. 4:36:55 -> 7:23.08

    15. 4:41:57 -> 8:23.50

    16. 4:47: 0 -> 9:23.92

    17. 4:52: 2 -> 10:24.34

    18. 4:57: 4 -> 11:24.76

    19. 5:27:16 -> 5:27.27

    20. 5:32:18 -> 6:27.69

    21. 5:37:21 -> 7:28.11

    22. 5:42:23 -> 8:28.53

    23. 5:47:25 -> 9:28.95

    24. 5:52:27 -> 10:29.37

    25. 5:57:29 -> 11:29.79

    26. 6:32:44 -> 6:32.73

    27. 6:37:46 -> 7:33.15

    28. 6:42:48 -> 8:33.57

    29. 6:47:50 -> 9:33.99

    30. 6:52:52 -> 10:34.41

    31. 6:57:54 -> 11:34.82

    32. 7:38:11 -> 7:38.18

    33. 7:43:13 -> 8:38.60

    34. 7:48:15 -> 9:39.02

    35. 7:53:17 -> 10:39.44

    36. 7:58:19 -> 11:39.86

    37. 8:43:38 -> 8:43.64

    38. 8:48:40 -> 9:44.06

    39. 8:53:42 -> 10:44.48

    40. 8:58:44 -> 11:44.89

    41. 9:49: 5 -> 9:49.09

    42. 9:54: 8 -> 10:49.51

    43. 9:59:10 -> 11:49.93

    44. 10:54:33 -> 10:54.55

    45. 10:59:35 -> 11:54.97

    You can also reverse any A -> B to get B -> A.

  • 8 years ago

    Since the hour hand rotates 12 times as fast as the minute hand, supposing A and B are the angles made by hour and minute hand resp. to 12 o-clock,

    12A = B + 2nXpi where n is any integer

    Since the same relationship should hold with the two hands swapped,

    12B = A + 2kXpi

    We get A-B = 2(n-k)pi/13, and

    A+B = 2(n+k)pi/11

    Since n and k are integers, so are n-k and n+k, and we have

    A-B=2mpi/13

    A+B=2qpi/11, with the stipulation that m and q be both even or both odd.

    Assume without loss of generality that A>=B

    Since A and B must be between 3 and 12 pm, each of them lies between pi/2 and 2pi. Hence we have

    0 <= A-B <= 3pi/2

    and, pi <= A+B <= 4pi

    Thus m can be 0, 1, 2, ...,9 and q can be 6, 7, 8, ..,22

    There are 5 odd m values, and 8 odd q values, which is 40 pairs of odd (m,q)

    There are 5 even m values, and 9 even q values, which is 45 pairs of even (m,q)

    (Remember that m and q cannot be of different parities)

    So we have a total of 85 solutions, for now.

    The solutions are A=(m/13 + q/11)pi and B= (q/11 - m/13)pi where (m,q) are each of the pairs mentioned above. Since A and B must be between 3pi/2 and 2pi, this further reduces the possible pairs. I suggest searching systematically or using a computer program with a simple "if" loop to do it for you.

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