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Clock Puzzle: A regular analogue clock...?
A regular analogue clock has a 'minute' hand and an 'hour' hand which rotate at constant angular speeds - 1 rev per hour and 1/12 rev per hour respectively.
How many times between 3:00 pm and 12:00 am can the the two hands be swapped so that the clock face displays another time that is also inside this 9 hour time period?
What are those times?
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Hint:
Clearly 3:30 is *not* such a time as there is no such time where the 'minute' hand points *directly* at the 3 whilst the 'hour' hand points *directly* at the 6.
Wow! Thank you!
Both excellent answers!
2 Answers
- MathMan TGLv 78 years agoFavorite Answer
Clearly, when the hands coincide, it works.
That occurs once per hour,
around 3:16, 4:21, 5:27, 6:33, 7:38, 8:44, 9:49, 10:55, and 11:60 (better known as 12:00).
(9 times).
Slightly more precise (1 second resolution), but not quite the times are
3:16:22
4:21:49
5:27:16
6:32:44
7:38:11
8:43:38
9:49:05
10:54:33
It's quite tricky to calculate if other times work as well.
Between 3 and 12, the hour hand is ... between 3 and 12 (of course)
which means we are only interested in minutes between 15 and 60 (or 0).
If we make the 12 equal to 0 degrees, then
1 2 3 . . . . 9 10 11 represent
30 60 90 ... 270 300 330 degrees.
The minute hand advances at 6° per minute,
and the hour hand advances at 1/2° per minute.
At m minutes past h hour,
the minute hand is at 6m °
the hour hand is at (30h + m/2) °
Consider the 3:00 to 3:59 hour.
During that time, the hour hand is between 3 and 4,
which if it were the minute hand would represent
15 to 20 minutes past the hour.
If the minute hand is between 4 and 5,
then swapping them represents times between 4:15 and 4:20.
Let m = minutes past 4:00.
h degrees = 120 + m/2
m degrees = 6m (m between 15 and 20, m degrees between 90 and 120).
If we swap them, we have a time between 3:20 and 3:25.
And we want to find p such that
120 + m/2 = 6p and
6m = 90 + p/2
240 + m = 12p
144m = 2160 + 12p
240 + m = 144m - 2160
143m = 2400
m = 16.78
At 4:16.78 minute hand is at 100.68 degrees,
and the hour hand is at 128.39 degrees.
Reversing those gives a time of 3:21.4 which also corresponds to those degrees.
Then rather than solve such an equation for every 5-minute interval,
I resorted to a program, which prints out times when it is "close".
Here is the output:
note on the left of the -> is hh:mm:ss
and on the right it's hh:mm.fraction of a minute
There are 45 on this list.
I computed them using 1 second intervals.
It may be that for exact accuracy you need sub-second
computations ... and I also computed within a tolerance
of 0.05 degrees.
It might be the case that they don't work exactly.
1. 3:16:22 -> 3:16.36
2. 3:21:24 -> 4:16.78
3. 3:26:26 -> 5:17.20
4. 3:31:28 -> 6:17.62
5. 3:36:30 -> 7:18.04
6. 3:41:32 -> 8:18.46
7. 3:46:34 -> 9:18.88
8. 3:51:36 -> 10:19.30
9. 3:51:37 -> 10:19.30
10. 3:56:39 -> 11:19.72
11. 4:21:49 -> 4:21.82
12. 4:26:51 -> 5:22.24
13. 4:31:53 -> 6:22.66
14. 4:36:55 -> 7:23.08
15. 4:41:57 -> 8:23.50
16. 4:47: 0 -> 9:23.92
17. 4:52: 2 -> 10:24.34
18. 4:57: 4 -> 11:24.76
19. 5:27:16 -> 5:27.27
20. 5:32:18 -> 6:27.69
21. 5:37:21 -> 7:28.11
22. 5:42:23 -> 8:28.53
23. 5:47:25 -> 9:28.95
24. 5:52:27 -> 10:29.37
25. 5:57:29 -> 11:29.79
26. 6:32:44 -> 6:32.73
27. 6:37:46 -> 7:33.15
28. 6:42:48 -> 8:33.57
29. 6:47:50 -> 9:33.99
30. 6:52:52 -> 10:34.41
31. 6:57:54 -> 11:34.82
32. 7:38:11 -> 7:38.18
33. 7:43:13 -> 8:38.60
34. 7:48:15 -> 9:39.02
35. 7:53:17 -> 10:39.44
36. 7:58:19 -> 11:39.86
37. 8:43:38 -> 8:43.64
38. 8:48:40 -> 9:44.06
39. 8:53:42 -> 10:44.48
40. 8:58:44 -> 11:44.89
41. 9:49: 5 -> 9:49.09
42. 9:54: 8 -> 10:49.51
43. 9:59:10 -> 11:49.93
44. 10:54:33 -> 10:54.55
45. 10:59:35 -> 11:54.97
You can also reverse any A -> B to get B -> A.
- 8 years ago
Since the hour hand rotates 12 times as fast as the minute hand, supposing A and B are the angles made by hour and minute hand resp. to 12 o-clock,
12A = B + 2nXpi where n is any integer
Since the same relationship should hold with the two hands swapped,
12B = A + 2kXpi
We get A-B = 2(n-k)pi/13, and
A+B = 2(n+k)pi/11
Since n and k are integers, so are n-k and n+k, and we have
A-B=2mpi/13
A+B=2qpi/11, with the stipulation that m and q be both even or both odd.
Assume without loss of generality that A>=B
Since A and B must be between 3 and 12 pm, each of them lies between pi/2 and 2pi. Hence we have
0 <= A-B <= 3pi/2
and, pi <= A+B <= 4pi
Thus m can be 0, 1, 2, ...,9 and q can be 6, 7, 8, ..,22
There are 5 odd m values, and 8 odd q values, which is 40 pairs of odd (m,q)
There are 5 even m values, and 9 even q values, which is 45 pairs of even (m,q)
(Remember that m and q cannot be of different parities)
So we have a total of 85 solutions, for now.
The solutions are A=(m/13 + q/11)pi and B= (q/11 - m/13)pi where (m,q) are each of the pairs mentioned above. Since A and B must be between 3pi/2 and 2pi, this further reduces the possible pairs. I suggest searching systematically or using a computer program with a simple "if" loop to do it for you.