R&S: When's the next rapture date?

Not that I'm aware of. Last I checked, the Rapture isn't even a biblical concept. It's a dubious interpretation of one passage from Thessalonians, taken largely from the fever dreams of a sick young girl 200 years ago.

On the balance of biblical interpretation, that isn't quite the best source I'd use to base my beliefs on.

No one can predict the rapture in advance. It's a signless event, meaning there’s nothing upon which its occurrence is contingent. There will be no preceding signs.

The rapture of the Church is dependent only on reaching its “full number” (Romans 11:25). Because no one has ever known what that number is or how close we are to reaching it, the rapture has always been, and still is, an any moment event.

In comparing Romans 11:25 with Acts 15:13-18, I believe the rapture will have to precede the beginning of Daniel’s 70th Week. James told the other apostles that Israel was being set aside while the Lord takes a people for Himself from the Gentiles, after which He’ll restore Israel. I believe the people from the Gentiles refers to the Church and restoring Israel refers to the missing 7 years of Daniel’s 70 Weeks prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27).

In part, Romans 11:25 says Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. Then verse 26 speaks of Israel being saved, implying it will happen after the gentiles have come in. This applies to the Church in the sense that the group of Gentiles has to be gone before Israel turns back to the Lord for Daniel’s 70th Week. The Church is the only group of previously Gentile people about whom this is true.

I think this idea originated in Acts 15:13-18 when James explained that Israel was being set aside while the Lord takes a people for Himself from among the Gentiles. (The Greek word translated take in verse 14 means to carry away). Then He will once again turn His attention to Israel. When viewed together these two references confirm our departure prior to Daniel’s 70th Week.

i'm and it will happen next Tuesday. i understand this by way of fact 3+5=8x2=sixteen, and in case you subtract 9 from which you have 7 that's the style of days between immediately and next Tuesday. trouble-free good judgment.

Harpazo = Rapture

END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY

The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.

The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.

The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.

The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.

The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This brings a revival in Israel where many Jews turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).

The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).

The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).

The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).

The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.

The first half of the Tribulation (supporting verses in Revelation 6-9 and 17)

The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.

There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.

A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.

The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.

During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.

Mid-Tribulation (supporting verses in Revelation 10-14 and 17)

The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.

Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.

The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.

The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.

The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy and sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).

Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.

The second half of the Tribulation (supporting verses found in Revelation 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)

In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.

Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for any man.

The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.

At the end of the Tribulation, there would be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.

The Millennium

The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).

At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).

The Great White Throne Judgment

The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).

The Eternal Order (Revelation 21 and 22)

Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.

God’s Plan of Salvation for Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

I heard on the morning news recently that this planet will have completed its next flipping (it HAS flipped several times already) so the north pole will become the south by 7012.

THE YEAR 2023 I feel it in my gut swearzies guys spread the word

Ask Howard Camping.

Oh, right, he's Effed off with millions and his gullible followers are homeless.

Nice.

No date, no rapture.

Better be on His side when He comes back.

If you're paying attention to the words of World leaders you would hear them say things like "COMING NEW WORLD ORDER" Vice President of the USA recently talked about being tasked with bringing in the New World Order, to level the playing field, and new financial system. Other world leaders such as members in the Bilderberg group have talked behind closed doors saying they had a plan to Mark the entire world population by 2017. Members of the Bilderberg group include Presidents, Prime Ministers, Senator and Congressmen types around the world... as well as super wealthy, World business leaders, State Governors, UN Types, Military types, Owners of News and Entertainment companies, world bankers and kings and queens of nations.

Christians can't give a date for the rapture. But based solely on posturing and words of world leaders and the obvious coming collapse of the world financial system.. something BIG is coming and relatively soon to change the entire world. Christians that know the Bible, have seen the signs and all of them point to a near term Tribulation period beginning and the rapture of the church as prophesied in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4.

BEFORE BEHEADING FOR REFUSING THE 666 MARK

The rapture can happen at any time, up until when the coming world government starts beheading people for refusing the 666 mark and refusing to worship the beast (world leader) as god. Revelation chapter 20 and 1st Thessalonians tells us so. Many Bible scholars believe it will occur 7 or more years before the end of the tribulation. 1st Thessalonians chapter 4. "The Lord Himself SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN..." (emphasis added) this must occur sometime before the end of the tribulation period

Revelation chapter 20. The Beheaded Tribulation Martyrs, clearly defined as killed during the tribulation, are the only one's brought to life in the 1st Resurrection at the end of the tribulation period. Nobody but them and nobody else for 1000 years after. This beheaded martyr group is clearly not part of the church that is raptured. and clearly must accept Jesus as God after the rapture takes place. Putting the rapture event (along with "descend from heaven") happening sometime prior to the anti-christ government beheading people for refusing the 666 mark and refusing to worship the beast as god. Before taking the mark becomes a life or death, hell or heaven, head or no head decision, the rapture will have already taken place.

At the Rapture, Jesus comes for His church (1st Thess. 4), at the end of the Tribulation they come with Him (Rev. 19)

WARNING For Laodacian, Lukewarm, casual Christians: They might not be taken and "if" this is the correct interpretation they will be left to die during the tribulation period. See Revelation chapter 3 where God promises to spew them out of His mouth.

Jesus is God Himself, Jehovah, YHWH, The Creator, fully Deity and fully man. Who came to die for our sins in our place so we would not have to go to hell for our sins. He provides eternal life with Him in heaven for all that believe on Him. Acts 16, Romans 10:9-13 explains how to be saved.

THE CONTRACT

God is 3 personages, Jesus is God Himself; God the Son, & took on humanity, coming as a man to save us. Satan orchestrated a contract with sin with Adam in the Garden of Eden. Since that time, sin passes through man, therefore, Jesus was born of a virgin in order to save us of our sins & get us out of the contract. God worked out legal grounds, through Abraham, in order to save us & pour the sins of humanity on to Jesus on the Cross. Roughly 2000 years after Abraham was asked to kill / sacrifice his son, God sent His Son, on the same spot, to die for us. A man (Adam) put us in sin, a man (Jesus) gets us out of the contract. Legally, a pardon must be accepted to be in force, therefore accepting Jesus as your savior must occur. Romans 10:9-13 explains how.

2012 BEWARE 2012 It's coming!