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The Udina/Kai Leng situation in Mass Effect 3? Can you get the best outcome without playing ME1 and 2?

I had just finished "Priority: The Citadel II" mission, but this was the first time I did it with imported saves from both ME1 and ME2. I have some questions about that mission for those of you who started Mass Effect 3 fresh without ever playing ME1 and 2.

My first time playing Citadel II last year, I thought ME3 simply picked up where ME2 left off, so playing the other 2 weren't necessary. ME1 didn't even exist on PS3 then.

I didn't know unfinished Citadel side missions expire after Priority Tuchanka, so I missed some of them. Kai Leng killed that counselor, and I picked the "R1" button which killed Ashley. I was so mad, I went out and got ME2, and didn't even finish that 1st playthrough. I now realize that if I didn't press R1, one of my squad mates would've shot her anyway.

When I played ME2, with a nearly perfect ending, I had Thane show up in ME3 to stop Kai Leng's assassination attempt, I got the blue dialect option to slowly convince Ashley to take our side. I believe she was the one who shot Udina. Later, I had to do some convincing to get her to turn down Anderson's offer, and rejoin the ship.

Now, I just finished Citadel II yesterday, but I imported a nearly perfect ME1 playthrough (I only messed up Conrad Verner's missions), and a perfect ME2 playthrough (all loyal, no deaths, not even any of the abducted crew), with every downloaded content for all 3 games. I also completed all side missions before doing Priority Tuchanka.

This time around, after Thane saved the counselor, I got the "L1" option when I ran into Ashley. I didn't even get into any type of argument with her, and I got the "R1" option and shot Udina myself.

When I ran into Ashley outside the ship, I didn't even have to convince her to turn down Anderson's offer. Before I could really say anything, Ashley said that she would rather rejoin the Normandy, and I got her back without trying. She wasn't my love interest, Liara is.

QUESTION 1: Did it matter that I took Garrus and Liara with me, Ashley's squad mates from Mass Effect 1? I took those two specifically for that reason. I remember at the end of the Mass Effect 2 Horizon mission, Ashley goes off on both you AND Garrus if he is present. If he's not there, then you face Ashley's wrath alone.

QUESTION 2: What if I had taken EDI, who now occupies the robot body that sent Ashley to the hospital for over a month? Does Ashley say something about that?

QUESTION 3: If you start off with Mass Effect 3, Is there a way to get the same result I just did?

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    1. No, it does not matter what squad mates you take. For your second play through. Because by importing yours saves, your choices from ME 1&2 created the conditions you got. If you go through again, without importing, you will get your original R1 and/or argument to convince Ashley to rejoin the crew.

    2. Now, that one I have to try, I have never taken EDI with me, but I am pretty sure, so long as I go in as the Paragon I play (and my saves from ME1&2 as same Paragon, ) and I was good to Ashley, visited her in the hospital, gave her a gift, etc., then you always get the chance to talk her down.

    3. Yes. At the beginning of ME 3 when Ashley talks to you in the lift, and all through the mission before she is injured, pick the paragon options (which means do NOT be argumentative). After she is injured, go by hospital and in hospital store buy her the book of poetry she likes. She will be unconscious and you will not be able to give to her your first visit, but the second you will. Come back after every mission and talk to her. Be nice, Without Thane the counselor will still be killed, but you will be able to talk Ashley down and not shoot her.

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