Morally, who is right and who is wrong?

Research shows that the reason humans struggle with emotion to find equitable solutions is pinpointed the region of the brain called the insular cortex, or insula, which is also the seat of emotional reactions.

The fact that the brain has such a robust response to unfairness shows that sensing unfairness is a basic evolved capacity.

The emotional response to unfairness pushes people from extreme inequity and drives them to be fair. This observation shows our basic impulse to be fair isn't a complicated thing that we learn.

It therefore fully illustrates that all humans have morals controlled by the brain and that Christians are entirely wrong to try and claim morals as their own!!!!

But Christians found a way round it!

Government statistics show that Christians are vastly over represented in prisons for sexual, violent and fraudulent crime whilst year on year government figures show atheists make up only 2% of the prison population!

The Catholic Church is paying millions in compensation for the sex/paedophile crimes of their priests alone!

Christians are vastly over represented in the divorce courts!

Christians invented the concept of sin and then the idea that you could sin, ask forgiveness, get pardoned and start with a clean sheet!

So no surprise that they are so expert at it is it‽

A Christian is a man that feels repentance on Sunday for what he did on Saturday and is going to do on Monday. - Thomas Russell Ybarra

Gee, Mark, nope, nope, nope..... You are wrong.

Morality is determined by a society, not any religion.

In biblical times it was perfectly okay to have a slave.....and even to beat him/her within an inch of his/her life.

Christianity in Europe, for 1200 years, burned women and men at the stake with no real trial, Millions and millions lost their lives. The church either condemned the person, and had them burned, or got some other organization to do the actual burning.

It was only with republics, and democracies,----government "of, by and for the people" did people get civil rights. And that occurred as religions became weaker.

In the 1600's, Galileo stood before the pope and announced that the earth was a simple planet revolving around a common star, not the center of the universe.

Had he been less well known, that would have cost him his life..........no trial. As it was, the RCC had him under house arrest for the rest of his life...........8 years.

The Roman Catholic church has no such power today, can not burn anyone, and cannot put anyone under house arrest. Neither can any other religion.

They forgave him in 1994 or so.

Read a book.... "The Moral Animal. Why We Are the Way We Are" by Robert Wright. The standard in the field.

It will point out all your errors. He writes well.

Really, right and wrong are one and the same. You can't have one without the other. They are just opposites on the poles of polarity. You only know right and wrong because of where and how you were brought up. Some things that you consider to be right maybe wrong in another culture. So, then right and wrong are just judgement made in your own mind. There is no right and wrong, that is an illusion that has been planted by society and or culture. Morals are set for those who are not of LOVE. When you are the seat of love, what use will there be in morals. Who is going to say "Stop Loving me so much, I can't stand it" See what I mean, when you are not of that state of being, then you will come up with your own morals and your thinking might be flawed on what you believe to be right or wrong. Love is the only way. You can never go wrong with that.

I think the Euthyphro Dilemma sums up why basing morality on a god, especially the christian god, is beyond silly.

"Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?"

or

"Is what is morally good commanded by god because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by god?"

In the first case, god is just a messenger boy and we have no need of it. In the second case, a lot of stuff we, as humans, would consider immoral suddenly becomes moral, e.g. rape, murder, genocide, slavery, sacrifice, etc. And the slavery one is the biggest problem in the christian tradition because NOWHERE in the bible is slavery condemned, even in the new testament.

Of course this is kind of a false dilemma because it presupposes the existence of a god, but since you're doing that anyway...

then should we execute people for being gay,mixing fabrics and eating shellfish? is that moral? we can make our own morals, they are completely subjective and move with the times we live in.

EDIT - that makes no sense, how can you "live by the bible" if you on't live by the bible? and my answer is not irrelevant, it is a very valid point, the times we live in makes the morals we follow, in the 20'sit was seen as a disgrace to have a child out of wedlock, now it isn't and its the same with any things, certain things that are a detriment to society remain the same, ie rape, murder etc. so as you can see, point proven. now your question, and retort are irrelevant.

EDIT - firstly as someone who was practicing to be a minister and raised in a very christian home i think i know enough about the bible to know that is crap. nowhere in the bible does it say "do not follow the old testament" infact jesus rarely if ever mentions the old testament, and your question and retort are still irrelevant as i have proven myself through evidence(maybe not a thesis or anything but you can't deny i am right about what i said) and i think you mean the entire bible isn't a literal truth.

So if your religious neighbor say that his god order him to kill his children you will be thinking that is morally right? Or you will try to stop him..? In the end is just one mans helping another...no deities will lift a finger... if you need a bride or fear of punishment by gods for your morals, i am then the immoral..interesting

@Are you aware there are many deities in these planet and that your Abrahamic deity ask for that in the Bible or you don't read that part...Oh.. i am so wrong... my morality is based from loving respect the other humans on these planet... but not your favorite deity... but i hope you can forgive me.. trust us all religion are made by man... that why all organized religion hate atheist... we are bad for their business if your gods got something against us they will deal with us personally don't they?

@There you go again you assumed i am talking just about your favorite religion... do you need me to quote were in the Bible say Atheists have dark and foolish hearts or that you need to keep away from unbelievers. Neither marry nor be friends with them.... that sound really lovely?

Read Jaimes 4:4 and translate me these ....4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. so are you saying you don't hate me but want to be my friend.... or you don't believe in that? About my money.... is not damn... is issue by the government of the United States... and for your knowledge business are not always about money or profit... control and power can be part of the game

You can believe that your morality come from your special deity friends...don't worry i understand why you need to believe that?

<<Morally, who is <snip> offends human dignity.>>

Catholic Moral Doctrine does NOT offend human dignity.

You know, BEFORE you get into your argument, you NEED to tell me WHO said WHAT!

<<Without religion, however <snip> made by man.>>

Okay. . . .what, this is where you stopped? What about which of the religions has the Authority - the Divine Authority to define Moral Law for all people then? You left that up in the air ! ! ! ! ! ! !

We humans HAVE determined our own morals.

If you need a god to tell you that you shouldn't rape or steal, by all means keep believing, but stay away from the general public where possible.

"We have not determined any morals as humans"

What on earth do you think "the law" is?

Plus, predictably, there's no agreement in any one religion on exactly what we should and should not do, so you're point is moot in the first place.

We do establish our own morals.

At least we know a book is the only thing stopping you from raping and murdering.

And I hardly think you can get morals from the Bible, that's the most immoral book Iv'e ever read.

"Without religion, however, it is just one mans word against another there is no moral standard.

We, humans, cannot be left up to determining our own morals, not society nor government or any other man or woman."

You've never heard of secular morality, have ye?