Can you believe Nascar actually penalized MWR?

Jeff would not have been in the chase regardless, anyone who is saying that is uninformed.

He ended up 1 point behind Logano. Logano moved up the 1 spot from Vickers pitting, without that it's a tie. Logano would have then taken the tiebreaker for 10th on account of having a win. So that was no change overall.

I believe it, yes. I still think NASCAR makes a lot of governing mistakes, but I felt that they weren't going to let this one slip away after all the information that came out. Their initial comment was made immediately after the race before all the stuff came to light.

But their problems are still exposed with the fact that Bowyer gets away clean. No fine, no probation, no penalty. 50 points were docked before Chase reseeding so his starting position has not been altered. Gets away squeaky clean, with only reputation damage.

And Gordon was still unfairly screwed out of the Chase, and NASCAR did nothing to address that situation.

I was just listening to Marty Smith and he said that it is $300,000 per team. And how he talked is that Bowyer's penalty comes in the Chase. Now I may have misheard but that would make sense. I'm just interested on how the appeals process is going to work in this case.

Bowyer did not get off scott free. He was penalized heavily - 50 points. But his season was good enough to overcome it.

Nascar as much as said Bowyer cheated and caused two drivers to miss the chase,but by putting only one of those drivers back in, they are cheating also by screwing Gordon over.

I think it's great but not enough. Bowyer deserves a massive penalty

NASCAR runs a puppet show, and if it doesn't go their way, they'll make up a rule to make sure it's as watered down as possible. It's just black and white. Your question is like asking if anyone believes NASCAR throws a caution whenever they want. All the people can get exited about this incident but they can't get excited about NASCAR throwing cautions with a few laps to go, or they can't get excited about instantaneous rule changes. They have the cars almost identical in performance, now all they need is to clone drivers and brainwash them. The competition is almost all gone. What a lame way to excite the fans. I was having fun until NASCAR decided once again that the drivers are not allowed to express themselves in the name of competition. Someday NASCAR will find a way to make their sport boring, dull & generic for everyone.

What's NASCAR going to do about Edwards' jumping the last re-start? Every body who watched the race saw it! If NASCAR spins of it's heels and does nothing I hope they loose more seats FOREVER. Crooked bunch of bastards.

never in a million years would i have thought nascar would have done this.....as a SHR fan, i'm very happy for Newman, he raced his azs off just to be screwed by MWR. justice served

Racing at this level is a Chess match. You come up with strategies to do what you have to do to make the Chase. Nascar uses their magic rule "Actions detrimental to stock car racing" to manipulate the "Chess pieces" at will. That rule could be anything Nascar wants it to be and that is how they justify their mystery rules they seem to pull out of their hats.

Bowyers spin was cheap yes, but cheating no just another strategic move in a fast paced Chess match.

Here is a fix Nascar, dump the Chase and this crap goes away!