Do we now say goodbye to the Big Bang THEORY?

Why thank you :)

I don't get excited about any of the theories.

The big bang concept is flawed and there is not enough known mass and energy for it to work. Black holes have yet to demonstrate the ability to expel a working star system and if the theory of the big bang was correct there should be some evidence being seen near these (but there isn't).

Escape velocity for the big bang exceeds the speed of light and every known rule of physics dictates that the universe should have collapsed a long time ago or be collapsing in the present.

So the universe is a perpetual motion machine that every thing we know says can not exist.

Much the same story exists in biology. Every rule of animal husbandry shows that any population left to it's self with out side genetic material to draw on suffers failure when the resesive genes become dominant because of loss of "new blood". Meaning some portions of an animal population will develop genetic defects that make the species susceptible to diseases that result in extinction. So we have life on this planet that by every rule know to those who breed animals which should not still be surviving.

The bottom line is that according to science what we see can not be because it is impossible.

But it is and they are trying to figure out why!

To me it is just much simpler to enjoy the show and not ask how!

Well, no, cupcake. Not so fast.

"One of the biggest problems he faces is explaining the existence and structure of the cosmic microwave background, something that many astrophysicists believe to be the the strongest evidence that the Big Bang really did happen. The CMB, they say, is the echo of the Big bang....His approach may well explain the Type-I supernova observations without abandoning conservation of energy but it asks us to give up the notion of the Big Bang, the constancy of the speed of light and to accept a vast new set of potential phenomenon related to the interchangeable relationships between mass, space and time."

It's an idea, not a conclusion.

"Sounds like SCIENTIFIC evidence for the Christian concept of ETERNITY to me."

Oh, I'm sorry...did you not read the article, then?

Let me guess... you're an evolution-denier, right? Yet you don't see anything inherently dishonest in jumping all in on this proposed model because you think you can use it to bolster your beliefs, but treating 150 years of settled, solid science as iffy because you think it contradicts your mythology.

Interesting.

It's a model. So is the Big Bang. New information will always cause a modification to, and sometimes elimination of, old models.

It's called the scientific method.

And incidentally, even if this model is demonstrated to fit the evidence more than the Big Bang, it does not in any way support the Biblical model of creation.

That's funny, I thought the Christian concept was that God created the Universe in 6 days! Now you are suggesting the Christians believe that the Universe had no beginning or end. Sorry but it can't be both.

Why don't you just keep moving the goal post around? How can you be so accepting of completely changing dogma to match the science? What a hypocrite.

It's a mathematical model with no evidence making it only a hypothesis. Theories require evidence.

Evidence for the big bang:

Large-scale homogeneity, Hubble diagram, Abundances of light elements, Existence of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, Fluctuations in the CMBR, Large-scale structure of the universe, Age of stars, Evolution of galaxies, Time dilation in supernova brightness curves, Tolman tests, Sunyaev-Zel'dovich effect, Integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Consistency

Requirement criteria for a theory:

- Must contain an explanation of a natural phenomenon.

- Must be falsifiable, but not have been falsified.

- Must stand up to repeated testing.

- Must be backed by many strands of independent evidence.

- Must make successful predictions.

If a concept fails to meet any of those requirements, it’s only a hypothesis.

Lots of "if"s in that article.

The Bible begins with the words, "In the beginning . . . ." The Big Bang model of the universe can be reconciled with those words; an eternal universe can't. Care to try again?

"the Christian concept of ETERNITY"

Oh, so now Christians are claiming eternity as their own concept, are they? And yet they also claim the Big Bang supports 'In the beginning'. It just goes to show how Christians will claim any scientific discovery as backing up their beliefs.

"Sounds like SCIENTIFIC evidence for the Christian concept of ETERNITY to me..."

I'm sorry, where did your magic man in the sky enter the picture?

That's right, NOWHERE.

But hey, if he has a model which better fits the data, I'm all for it. Still doesn't validate your nonsense superstition in any way.

Kaley Cuoco....drooool....WAIT JUST A DARNED SECOND.

What the HECK does this has to do with evolution?

NOTHING.

And actually, it DOESN'T sound like the christian concept of eternity. If anything it pokes MORE holes into christianity. If the universe has lasted FOREVER, how did your god create it?

The article date is 2010.

If that was going to go anywhere, we'd have heard it in the mass media by now.

- flushes it with the rest of the bologna -