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How to answer this r/s post?
"Please show me the gospel passages where Jesus speaks against abortion and gays. Not some passage taken wildly out of context, a passage where he makes a definitive statement about the above issues."
On abortions:
Luke 18:15 People were also bringing babies to Jesus for him to place his hands on them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. 16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.
-Does not sound like He approved of hurting a baby, much less killing it. He also upheld the law of the Old Testament(as we call it today). Deuteronomy 30:19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live-- Now I call that clear.
On gay lifestyle:
Mark 10:5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
-The two will become one is from Genesis when woman was created out of part of the man. Therefore man and woman become one, not man and man or woman and woman. Pretty clear here again. Let no one separate what God has joined together. Men are meant to be joined to women.
Jesus loves you and wants you to follow Him so you may live. Forever.
@Pyriform-Your context is in Matthew on same subject and supports the scripture I used.
Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
8 Answers
- Anonymous8 years agoFavorite Answer
You answered your own question.
- /Lv 78 years ago
Oh good grief. Neither one of your quotes indicates what you say they do without enormous effort to draw imaginary lines from what was actually said to what you wish had been said in order to justify your own ludicrous beliefs.
Your beliefs on abortion are in direct contradiction to Judaic belief and practice and completely ignores the fact that your Jesus clearly stated that he came to fulfill not change the law. Disallowing abortions let along disallowing them because fetuses are children is a massive change to Judaic law both on its face and in its most basic basic structures.
As to same sex love and marriage while some bible verbiage in the OT can be found to support your supposition, one really has to wonder why you insist on believing that load of hogwash and yet fail to insist that slavery, polygamy and animal sacrifice et al are perfectly acceptable. Unless you have a logical explanation for this irrational special pleading your argument totally fails to stand on anything other than your own homophobic bigotry.
- 8 years ago
Using bible quotes to prove the existence of Jesus and god or use for any reasoning is like using quotes from "The lord of the rings" and "The Hobbit' by JR Tolkien to prove the existence of Bilbo Baggins and Middle Earth.
Example: Bilbo is real because in "The Hobbit" in chapter 19 it says that "Bilbo and Gandalf ride into Rivendell, the elves are singing a song of welcome"
."Gandalf tells Elrond all about their adventures in the North."
It's funny both books have places and events, beings living hundred of years, mystical serpents and lots of wars with merciless killing that there is no historical proof ever existed or happened.
- PyriformLv 78 years ago
Those are both taken completely out of context. If one reads the second one in that way, it condemns a single person just as much as homosexuals, so Paul would be wrong when he commends the single life. On the first issue, a foetus is hardly a little child.
- ?Lv 78 years ago
well, you are definitely VeNting anger. and your bias has blinded you to context. so you are violating your own question.
Jesus spoke against dogs and swine. is that not enough.
- Anonymous8 years ago
It was written before we understood that being gay was due to genetics, and abortion was brutal back then.
Whatever you believe is fine by me though.
- dervishLv 78 years ago
I thought moses was talking to the isrealites? and the old testament doesn't apply to xians? hey! are you pickingnchoosing?
