how many christians believe that rape rarely causes pregnancy?

It is only a few Christians who think like this, the rest of us do not.

Of course there is always a chance a woman can get pregnant if she is raped.

The problem with a lot of mainstream Christianity churches is that the people are really like sheep. Their priests or pastors basically tell them what to believe and they are not encouraged at all to read the Bible for themselves, they just blindly follow what the priest of minister says.

A lot of Christian sects, like mine, do not have paid ministers, we read the Bible ourselves, the men share the duties of giving talks each Sunday morning, but they are not preachy talks, they are about life in biblical days - going through parts of the Bible, studying the people in the Bible, etc. We have Bible discussions, and everyone's opinion counts. We do a lot of research, etc so we are not just blindly following a leader to tells us what to believe.

For your original question about abortion if the woman gets pregnant. I would not know what to think -

I myself would carry the baby to term as it is not the child's fault, and I personally do not believe in abortion....but I don't know if I would keep it or give it up for adoption, as it would be a constant reminder of the rape.

The article posted by the user claiming rape caused pregnancies only happen 5% of the time?

The article clearly states the study *INCLUDES* rapes where a condom was worn.

That changes the meaning of that 5% drastically.

Some women enjoy being raped on one level but shun the experience on another. I've known numerous men from prison populations that are more willing to discuss this than women. A woman who enjoys the rape may be impregnated. Statistics are distorted by the difficulty distinguishing voluntary from non-voluntary rapes. <<<< This has to be one of the most disgusting things I have ever read! I don't believe you have "known numerous men from prison populations......"! You are making this up to make some kind of ludicrous point and totally denigrating women in the process. "Voluntary" rapes??? What a terrible and awful and unkind and cold person you must be! If you are a Christian, then Jesus is weeping at what you posted.

The worst think I ever heard in my life about rape was Richard Dawkins

Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Richard Dawkins says that rape is morally arbitrary

The transcript:

Justin Brierley: When you make a value judgement don't you immediately step yourself outside of this evolutionary process and say that the reason this is good is that it's good. And you don't have any way to stand on that statement.

Richard Dawkins: My value judgement itself could come from my evolutionary past.

Justin Brierley: So therefore it's just as random in a sense as any product of evolution.

Richard Dawkins: You could say that, it doesn't in any case, nothing about it makes it more probable that there is anything supernatural.

Justin Brierley: Ultimately, your belief that rape is wrong is as arbitrary as the fact that we've evolved five fingers rather than six.

Richard Dawkins: You could say that, yeah.

It is rather hypocritical of them but when this is pointed out to them, they stupidly think 'oh, yeah. It's a baby' So, OK...the pregnant woman should lose her rights, on top of being violently attacked b/c we don't think things through and think that a fetus is an actual baby (once it is born, no way in hell am I going to support it's education or welfare of any kind though)'.

They won't admit to themselves that pregnancy is a biological situation (b/c it undermines their 'Goddidit' argument) and a fetus is not an actual baby.

@ icysnowgirl, quoting from the OT which many Xians say is no longer applicable? Does that also mean that Hitler & Nero were thought out too?

@ Fireball-yeah, not thinking makes your dictatorish desires less repulsive to you, huh?

BTW, go to an orphanage and check out the number of foster children that are never adopted, but turned out on the streets once they're eighteen.

Genesis 9:6 says that one who murders a born person must be put to death. But Exodus 21:22 says someone who causes a woman to miscarry is not subject to capital punishment, but should just pay a fine. Ensoulment is a birthright; miscarried fetuses are obviously not born live and thus not ensouled.

Exactly. The odds of a pregnancy from any one episode of intercourse, rape or not, are not necessarily that high, but those who oppose abortion except in the case of rape or incest (or if the victim is a young girl) clearly only care about the sex, not about the fetus. It is, indeed, not the fetus' fault how it got there, so if the only concern was about the fetus, then you would be forcing women to bear the child of their attacker, and that makes them sound like monsters. This way, they're just hypocrites. What bugs them is that a woman had sex and maybe even enjoyed it. You don't notice them caring much about these babies after they're born, do you? They don't want them to have health care, and they don't care if they can afford to go to college.

Rape results in pregnancy about 5% of the time.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/08/...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8765248

5% doesn't exactly make it a "common" occurrence.

"The article clearly states the study *INCLUDES* rapes where a condom was worn."

- So.. a condom makes it less rapey? Got it.

"LOL @ Simple Jack - simple indeed....if a condom was worn the chance of conception goes down, that's kind of the point of wearing one, innit......well, maybe not for rapists, maybe rapists wear condoms to keep their DNA evidence to themselves, but they do prevent conception in something like 97% of cases they are used in......

so....we would need to know how many of the rapists wore condoms, subtract them from the group, THEN calculate the percent who conceived......

I get Cassa's point. It does mess up that 5% greatly."

- And do you guys just not get the fact that that has NO BEARING on the question? The issue isn't HOW a rape results in pregnancy or not. The issue is simply HOW OFTEN. and "how often" is 5%.

From the viewpoint of God, life begins at the very moment of conception.

Psalms 139:15 My bones were not hidden from you

When I was made in secret,

When I was woven in the lowest parts of the earth.

16 Your eyes saw even the embryo of me,

And in your book all its parts were down in writing,

As regards the days when they were formed

And there was not yet one among them

It is unfortunate when a woman is raped, however, it still doesn't make murder acceptable. God does not condone such violent acts as rape, he does sympathize with these ones but doesn't change the fact the he doesn't want anyone's life to be taken, even an unborn baby.

Some women enjoy being raped on one level but shun the experience on another. I've known numerous men from prison populations that are more willing to discuss this than women. I suspect that this is because male on male rapes are so common that there isn't the same "victim/survivor" mentality creating a taboo about admitting to enjoyment. Without thinking of it as a necessarily violent and traumatic experience, they often accept it as a pleasurable experience and move on in life. A woman who enjoys the rape may be impregnated. Statistics are distorted by the difficulty distinguishing voluntary from non-voluntary rapes.