what happened to "spare the rod and spoil the child?"?

Discipline is discouraged by the government of man, but heartily endorsed by God. Man's thinking is perverted on this subject.

I have raised seven children who are respectful and respected adults among those who know them. They are loved by most who know them. They all have good work ethics, know and love Christ as their Savior, and yet they are nowhere near perfect.

Here is how my wife and I got those results.

1. We let them know we loved them, but above all, we let them know that God loved them far more than we did.

2. Part of showing love to them was swats and mercy that was given to them sometimes when they deserved swats. Following discipline there was a reassurance of love, and we tried to never discipline any of our children when we were angry.

3. Our children were taught to respect their parents and everyone within their sphere of life including one another.

4. We had Christian music in our home and in our car, and we took, NOT SENT, them to church where they learned along with others of their own age about the love of God shown in Jesus.

5. We told them what the Bible taught about their thoughts, acts, and words and how that affected everyone they came in contact with, and how God regarded those things.

6. We encouraged them to go on mission trips with the youth to help people in need while ministering the gospel to them.

7. We counseled each one who got married prior to their marriage along with their spouse, and shared what we experienced in our own marriage that was positive and negative.

8. We gave them the freedom to experiment with life while letting them know there were always consequences to their actions. They chose their friends, the music they wanted to listen to, the places they wanted to go, and etc. Strangely enough it was their preference to do godly things for the most part. There were times when they made mistakes but none bad enough to destroy faith in the Lord who saved them.

9. Every one of our children decided to place their faith in Christ by the age of six years; one at three years, one at four and the other five by the age of six. Not one of them has ever turned from it and they are ranging in age now from 22 to 32.

10. We taught them that there was no free ride in life and did what we could to help them learn to support themselves.

There is more, but the results are all positive. Our children love one another and are in constant contact and pray for one another and help one another when the need arises. They have a strong bond. Three of our sons wrote to me and thanked me for being firm and resolute in disciplining them, mentioning that when they look around them at people their age they see a clear difference which makes them thankful that they were raised in a Christian home. We have had many unsolicited comments from everyone from strangers to family members to church pastors and members and others about our children and they were all positive.

Those who say discipline hurts children are wrong. Solomon, who has long been considered one of the wisest men that ever lived, had this to say; Proverbs 23:13-14 - "Withhold not correction from the child; for if thou beatest him with a rod he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with a rod and deliver his soul from Hell."

He is not speaking of beating as some would interpret this couple of verses. He is merely speaking of loving discipline. The end result is well worth the discipline - delivering a soul from Hell. Another scripture states; "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, but the rod of correction will drive it far from him."

I worked in a rehab with young people years ago, and one of the boys who was in the program said he hated his dad because his father never cared enough to discipline him. Discipline done as it should be done is love in action. To believe otherwise is folly.

Things have gone to much the other way now. When I was a child being scolded or slapped did you. No harm If we were misbehaving that is. I don't agree with battering children or roaring at them, there is other ways and means to teach children right from wrong. For example talking and explaining to them why it is wrong and keep a calm but firm voice. Some Children nowadays have no respect for anyone and can be very unruly and have no manners or fear of anyone. They get everything they want from 20 things for Christmas like ps4, laptop etc to Xbox one for their birthday it's got ridiculous, what has happened?

I was brought up in a Christian household and never once got spanked. That's because I knew that the best way to stay out of trouble was to do as I was told and please my parents. That was back in the days when parents and teachers were allowed to discipline their children.

What's happend to "spare the rod and spoil the child" now? Well, the rod is being spared, the children are being spoiled and they are growing up to be obnoxious, disrespectful and self-centred brats who think the world ows them a living and they can do anything they please without having to think about anyone else.

A little more discipline might prevent children growing up into adults who end up in jail because they don't understand boundaries. Our society is going downhill fast, and most of the blame lies at the doors of liberals who disregard what the Bible says about the responsibilities of parents to bring up their children to respect their parents, law and order.

LM

Look at the world today! Children are carrying guns to school, pregnancies, etc. The bible says also to raise up a child in the way it should go, and they would not depart from it. I had two girls, I don't remember spanking them but I did discipline them. Both are college grads and no police record, and no early pregnancies etc. If I needed to spank one of them, I would obey Gods law over mans.

That's not what it means. It means to discipline your children- not just let them run wild. The rod is what a shepherd uses to protect the sheep. Spanking does no good and makes kids worse

It is not necessarily literal. There are ways of punishing your hold without hitting them. Spanking was the general method for centuries up until now.

Go is basically saying that we must discipline our children, not necessarily by hitting them. Discipline is necessary so they grow up to be good people.

God disciplines us, and it is not corporally.

Not always the case. With a balance of love and discipline children grow up well. The first time you tell them nicely. If they do it again, you tell them harshly and the third time you punish them. In my house there wasn't any "go to ur rooms" or grounded business, my parents would hit me if I was extremely bad. But hey, you learn to be better and avoid it and do less to get it that far.

If you hit a dog it learns to distrust you. The same with children. Violence begets violence. I only learned to distrust my parents when they hit me as a child; it taught me nothing other than adults can do anything to anyone. An intelligent person knows ways to discipline their children without physical violence. Physical violence begets physical violence; nobody ever learns anything. I began to hate my parents the first time they laid a hand on me. And today, after a childhood of beatings, I hate them even more.

If you want your children to learn to distrust and hate you then go ahead; beat them. And I hope they report it to child services and have you arrested. Wife beaters often come from homes of physical discipline. They lived in fear when their mothers and siblings were beaten, worried about when it would be their turn. They learned nothing other than it is okay to beat the people you love. They associate beatings with love. It is really quite perverted like all religions.

Yes, they just cannot accept our Christian needs !

My wife and I have a problem with our teenage boy,who has gone gay on us. We pray "What have we done, O Lord, that this should be done unto us? My wife suggested we shoot his dog to get him back onto the Lord's way.But I say the Lord has other advice:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

King James Version (KJV

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.