Acts 15:14-17 is truly prophetic?

Acts

15:15–17 James quotes Amos’ prophecy (9:11, 12) of the millennial kingdom to prove that Gentile salvation was not contrary to God’s plan for Israel. In fact, in the kingdom God’s messengers will announce salvation to the Gentiles (Zec 8:20–23).

15:17 GENTILES … CALLED BY MY NAME. James’ point is that Amos makes no mention of Gentiles becoming Jewish proselytes. If Gentiles can be saved without becoming Jews in the kingdom, there is no need for Gentiles to become proselytes in the present age.

MIMI

Yes, that passage in Acts does show that a prophetic statement was being quoted and applied from the book of Amos. But its fulfillment is clearly not what you seek to twist it to be. You are clearly motivated by a prideful, JW-glorifying, 'my religion is better than yours' attitude.

As the context of Acts 15:14-17 clearly reveals, Symeon was applying that prophecy to first century christians then composed of Jews and gentiles.

But how were first century christians called? Were they called "Jehovah's Witnesses"? Can you show me any scripture in the NT where christians at that time were called "Jehovah's Witnesses"? There is none! The NT refers to christians as those who belong to "The Way", those who walk in "The Truth", "Christians" and as the "Witnesses of Jesus". Nowhere will you find "Jehovah's Witnesses" in the NT.

So clearly that prophecy about God having a people for his name is not about a people called "Jehovah's Witnesses". It is not about the use of the literal name of God. Rather it is about a people for God's name; a people who glorify him, bring honor to and uphold his reputation, etc.

You further said:

"The only people who use ,carry and worship Jehovah are the Jehovah's witnesses"

This statement is false. There are other religions that use the name Jehovah or its more Hebrew variant Yahweh. Ever heard of the Assemblies of Yahweh? Stop spreading pro-JW false propaganda!

Jehovah's Witnesses were initially know as Biblie Students.

The name Jehovah's Witnesses was coined by the second leader ,Rutherford,in 1931, to distinguish them them the Bible Students ,loyal to CT Russell, who separated from Rutherford's group after Russell's death.

Rutherford taught that 'Jehovah's Witnesses' were only the members of the elite 144000 of the heavenly class.

The name Jehovah's Witnesses was applied to all the rest of the earthly class in 1942

'Proclaimers' book p 83 footnote

It has nothing to do with any prophecy.

GNT, actually there are many others that use the name of God Jehovah. Pentacostals in Latin countries.

Acts was not a book of prophecy. What gave you that impression?

Jehovah was the Old Testament name for God.

There is nothing prophetic about these verses - you can interpret it any way you like but that doesn't make it prophetic. That makes it vague and therefore meaningless.

How can you not even understand your own book...?

Yes. Gods name Jehovah is to be sanctified or hallowed or put on high, just as Jesus taught us to pray for in the Lord's Prayer. Most religions not only ignore Gods name, they have removed it from their bibles. Jehovahs people though are proud to carry and be known by that name. It identifies them as the "people for his name" that would be taken out of all nations. All the best. Jay

And only the JW's translation of the Bible would contain the word "jehovah". You're in a bloody cult, get a clue.

jehovah is just another name for god

@ Acts 15:14-17 prophecies = the Jehovah's witnesses

@ "not only ignore Gods name, they have removed it from their bibles"

o_O.... Where did you get the idea that worshiping a False Name for God aka "Jehovah" ,

Make you think that Acts 15:14-17 = Jehovah's witnesses ? ( or Witnesses of God )

FACT:

1) The name " Jehovah " was first invented by a Catholic monk by the name of Petrus Galatinus in the 16th century.

2) When Christian scholars began to study the Old Testament in Hebrew, if they were ignorant of this general rule or regarded the substitution as a piece of Jewish superstition, reading what actually stood in the text, they would inevitably pronounce the name Jěhōvāh - http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6d...

( In other word modern Jehovah or Yahovah is mispronunciation of the Hebrew name by mistakenly adding Vowel to the Four Hebrew letters יהוה, )

So where did you get you ideas "Jehovah was there in the first place in the bible" ?

Not to mention the suffix "hovah" in the word "jehovah" means "ruin, mischief" in old Hebrew and"Jeh" mean spirit /demon. This alone is surely sufficient grounds for not applying the name "jehovah" to "the God of the Old Testament" not to mention jehova name are use in demonologia and occult? books.google.com.my/books http://goo.gl/3jT08h

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Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written: “After this I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins, And I will set it up; So that the rest of mankind may seek the LORD, Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name, Says the LORD who does all these things.’” (Acts 15:14-17 NKJV)

If you read careful Acts 15:14-17 its mention

"return"

So did Jesus second coming "return" ( verse 16) had happen ?

All Knowledgeable JW know that it was in 1914 that Jesus "return".. Yet did you know that from 1889 to 1929 . WBTS was still teaching 1874 was the date Jesus return

1889 The Time is at Hand, p.239 [image bellow ]

- "Just so it has been in this harvest: Our Lord's presence as Bridegroom and Reaper was recognized during the first three and a half years, from A.D. 1874 http://www.towertotruth.net/images/1889TimeAtHandp...

1925 it was believed to be the date of Armageddon.

1929 Prophecy, p.65 [image bellow ]

- "The Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 A.D." http://www.towertotruth.net/images/1929Prophecyp65...

The name “Jehovah’s Witnesses” was chosen by a man named Judge Rutheford (the second president of the Watchtower Society) in the twentieth century in 1931. Yet it was after his death that 1914 was teach as Jesus second coming by the third WBTS president

Yo do know that Jehovah Witnesses is a new Religion created from JF Rutherford after the death of its founder. C.T Russell who desired to be called by no other name but “Christian.”

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1m0sJct2b3o/Uqjq5Y92v_I/...

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@ True Christian is Jehovah Witnesses.

NO WAY.... because

The apostles ( True Christian ) described themselves as witnesses of Jesus,

1) " they called him their only owner and Lord,"

2) " and the one to whom they belonged. "

3) "They were baptised in his name,"

4) "led by his Spirit, "

5) "rejoiced in his blessing and "

6) "overflowed with praise for him. "

The name “Jehovah’s Witnesses” does not bear witness or call attention to the “Christ” or “Messiah” (Jesus), the one God’s people must bear witness to according to Acts 1:8.

( This is not to say that Christians bear “witness” to Jesus and not God. Rather, by bearing witnesses to Jesus, Christians glorify God and carry out his will because they are bearing witness to God’s Messiah, the one through whom Jehovah fulfills his purpose. )

Christians bear witnesses to God and his purposes in a distinctive way by preaching His Son Jesus as the “one Lord” and “Messiah” whom Jehovah has “raised from the dead” and exalted “at his right hand as Leader and Savior” (Acts 2:36; 3:15; 5:31; 1 Cor. 8:6).

All of these accounts are incompatible with the beliefs and practice of Jehovah's Witnesses.

So how did you get the ideas that True Christian = Jehovah Witnesses ?

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PS: Forgot to mention.... The first person to make this Mistake.... Which is THE MiSTAKE BY spellings at face value are result of not knowing about the Q're perpetuum,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q%27re_perpetuum like Petrus Galatinus in the 16th century.

was by a spanish monk, Raymundo Martini In 1278 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n_Mart%C3%AD , wrote the latin work PUGIO FIDEI (Dagger of faith). In it he used the name of God, spelling it Yohoua. Later printings of this work, dated some centuries later, used the spelling JEHOVA. -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JEHOVA_Raymundus...

Excerpts from Raymond Martin's Pugio Fidei adversus Mauros et Judaeos (1270, p. 559), containing the phrase "Jehova, sive Adonay, qvia Dominus es omnium" (Jehovah, or Adonay, for you are the Lord of all).