Question about gun laws?

You are not suppose to state fact to liberals, their liberal handlers do not prepare their liberal sheep to face facts.

@ Valentin... You are a liar! Indiana DOES NOT have a higher rate of gun deaths than Illinois. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-...

John. Where the guns come from for illicit use is a problem for Law Enforcement.

Not the average citizen, Even though they may be impacted at some time or another.

Most of the Illegal guns running into NY state and NYC come from GA, South Carolina.

Just another spoke in the wheel of what we have to deal with on the Homicide and

Armed Robbery side of things. Not enough teeth in the gun show laws in those two

States I mentioned to stop the volume buying and transporting to areas of wide usage.

Indiana has never been a major contributor to the illicit usage of Weapons in Chicago.

Well see you have it all wrong. Its the guns fault that they have so many shootings in Chicago. Those guns there just won't obey the law. See the law in Chicago doesn't work because its all Indiana's fault. That is why they passed the gun control laws in Chicago. That was to eliminate gun violence. Its not their fault the gun laws don't work its Indiana's.

This is sort of like global warming. If you pass a law here that will stop China and others from poluting the environment but if it doesn't you can still ask them to stop. If you can't get them to stop maybe you can get them to apologize. That will fix it.

Because everything else about Gary and Chicago are EXACTLY THE SAME, except for the gun laws.

Right? Gary is just Chicago in a different state.

That's the only way your argument meets any standard of logic.

Oh, the illiteracy that abounds.

1) http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/firearms-deat... uses "ADJUSTED" numbers. It says so right in your source, there, Valentina.

The FACT is Indiana has a LOWER murder rate and a LOWER "gun--murder" rate than Illinois does.

Illinois 20.2% own guns, 3.5 murders/1000, 2.8 "gun-murders"/1000

Indiana 39.1% own guns, 3.1 murders/1000, 2.2 "gun-murders"/1000

2) http://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads... cherry-picks only selected States and of course ignores D.C. Looking at ALL 50 states and D.C., we find:

> HIGHER percentage of Gun owners : LOWER Murder rate r=-0.34 p=0.015

> HIGHER percentage of Gun owners : LOWER "Gun-murder" rate r=-0.33 p=0.017

3) http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-researc... doesn't even CLAIM to include rates of gun-ownership in its "analysis." Although this data is READILY AVAILABLE, they instead use a "proxy for firearm ownership." In other used, they used SOME OTHER measure they believe goes along with it.

In Toronto, we have none of that junk and low crime rates too.

What's that prove?

A huge urban area that's near Chicago proves that city doesn't have to be the way it presently is. Criminals do own illegal hand guns here though - they're bought in Detroit.

It is all about the Gangbangers in chicago but the Libearals want to punish the law abiding citizens because they don't have the Balls to go after the criminals.

Indiana has a higher rate of gun deaths than Illinois

http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/firearms-deat...

Here's another study asserting gun problems are more prevent in red states with loose gun laws:

http://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads...

Another one:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-researc...

This ones for you John--------http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zv4PWfR34

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