Are there any forms that you know of that would have the crucifix hold?

the okinawan kata chinto has that technique in it, chinto was later modified into the japanese kata gankako

Terrible technique - so many escapes from this inferior technique its not funny. there are so many better options to execute this move. The crucifix is one of my favoured positions to set up into. This form was poor and worse than what i would expect of my mid-level white belts..

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@Darth - we practice this position and the transition in GJJ and BJJ thousands of times every few months. It is something that is taught even to the white belts. firstly he had absolutely NO control on the arm and had no control of the other arm with his grip. It is inferior and weak and something that would be exposed and used against you by any person with knowledge.

The original form looked similar to what you see and it was used over and over and over again and found to have far to many flaws, so it was modified completely. He should have stepped through and windscreen wipered the arm with his leg before crossing up and then he should have trapped the opposite hand in a figure 4 hold then gained control and ROLLED OVER the opponent. not sat back. Sitting back is a huge flaw in the design but even more so is the lack of control on the opposite arm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ELE0iqBk4

Shae is right in that his form is terrible, but to break it down, he is doing something to make the guy go down on his hands.

Once he is down on his hands, all he is doing is using a Cross-Leg Stance to trap his arm, then grabbing the other arm over his back and stretching him out.

He has the right idea, but he needs to refine it and practice it right. The problem is, how do you practice a technique like that without hurting your dojo brother?

So slow and easy movement transitions into more smooth and faster movement, exercising great care.

It's not an inferior technique. Crossleg Stance can be applied in various scenarios. You just have to discover them and work at them slowly, gradually building on it.

Just like anything else.

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Shae - I am in agreement with you. You're saying that the technique is inferior. I'm just saying that the way he is doing it is inferior. The technique itself is not.

Not really you should do leg twivle.