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Does the Biblical stories around Judas or Job bother anyone?
Job is the more obvious one, this guy was a great guy and then God let's the devil torture him just to prove how great he is?
and it was horrible stuff, right? like even kill his kids?
isn't that like me beating my kid just to see if he will still love me? or at least, letting someone else beat the kid?
and Judas... slightly less obvious, but the entire plan for humanity's salvation is based on one guy betraying Jesus... but he supposedly had free will? weren't Judas' actions necessary and yet he is demonized and committed suicide over them? if this was a court case they would probably say he was "set up"
I would put all of Gollum's actions squarely on Tolkien as he thought them up and as they never actually happened... and while Judas may have done the actions, if it was all according to a master plan, to what degree were they really his?
and back to job (perhaps I should have made two different questions as the issues are somewhat different, but oh well)... even if I had some grand intent of teaching someone else a lesson, I'm not sure that would absolve me from some aspect of wrong doing if I let someone beat my kid... and even if I planned to reward the kid at the end for his struggles?
Hope... you mean reading the Bible and understanding exactly what it says Job was about? it directly says that he let Satan test him... I didn't write it... and I wouldn't assume from that, that all sin or temptation personal or otherwise is on this level... maybe you won't get better if you ignore what things say and just attack people?
and I'm talking about Job specifically... not me or my forgiveness? or who I blame, which I don't blame God at all? in fact, if I took Job more seriously as a book, I MIGHT blame God more.. but at the end of the day, it's still in the Bible... in fact, it sounds like you have some problems with the book as well?
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- UserLv 77 years ago
I'd guess that you never finished The Book of Job, or that you read it very carelessly. The last few chapters of the book very plainly teach why it is that God did what he did and how it so very importantly benefited Job (and it was not to "prove" anything). Admittedly, though, God had the additional reason (or excuse to incite Satan) of demonstrating to Satan that Satan was incorrect about self-interest always being more influential for a human than devotion to God.
And it also seems that you have a very, er..."unreasonable" view of the account of Judas. Of course he would have been convicted in a court of law if "betrayal of one's religious leader" were considered a crime. How was he "set up"?
- SillypantsLv 77 years ago
And the bad thing about the Job story is that people who believe the story think Job was the victim... they completely disregard all those poor innocent family members who had to DIE in this little tale.
As for Judas, I said this recently: If Judas ended up at the bottom rungs of Hell as we hear the story go, then Judas made THE sacrifice of the universe while Jesus is just a poser sitting up on a throne for eternity.
- 7 years ago
Job ultimately benefited from his experiences. He gained closer knowledge of God, greater wisdom, and new riches and children (if only he'd gotten a better wife, too!). Moreover, millions of people since have learned much from Job.
Judas' actions were necessary, but still his malevolent choice. Gollum had to kill Deagle for the Lord of the Rings to happen, but that doesn't acquit him of the wrong involved.
