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According to the book of Revelation both Jehovah and Jesus are called the First and the Last.?

Does this make both Jehovah and Jesus the Almighty God? If not, why not?

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    The thing is the reference about being the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end is made by the Almighty (the Father) but also by Christ (the Son) in the Book of Revelation. Outside of the New World Translation the Christian Bible states in the Gospel of St. John chapter 1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". The key words is that "the Word was God" meaning at one time the Divine Persons the Father and the Son were one Divine Person. Again this is problematic for being called the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end because God has no beginning or end yet in the Book of Revelation both the Father and the Son state this? So with logic the Divine Persons the Father and the Son had a beginning but God has no beginning which means they were once one Divine Person before they became two Divine Persons and as Scripture indicates they will become one Divine Person again being that the Father and the Son has an end and God has not end. Of course the wording of the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end could also mean they are eternal as in infinite.

    As for a Christian they would never reject Jesus as being God.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    this is true because the revelation quotes, parallel with the 3 verses in Isaiah 41:4 44:6 and 48:12 and then finish off with 45:5

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    jehovah is never mentioned in the revelation.

    Jesus is God almighty, the alpha and omega.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    Jesus explains

    Jhn 10:30 I and my Father are one.

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  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    Jesus explains

    Jhn 10:30 I and my Father are one.

  • Steph
    Lv 7
    7 years ago

    Jesus is Almighty God with His Father. He is rightfully called the First and the Last.

    In Jesus' own words: “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Rev. 22:12-13

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    Greetings,

    Trinitarians claim that Jesus and Jehovah must be the same since they both are called "The First and Last".

    However, this conclusion is proven incorrect when the Scriptural facts, context, and grammar are examined. This argument contains a fatal assumption: that two individuals cannot hold the same title unless they are equal.

    First, it's a logical fallacy to argue two people are the same being, or equal, just because they are called by the same title. To illustrate: does calling Jesus "father" identify him as God The Father? (Isa. 9:6,7). While Trinitarians would strongly reject such logic when it comes to identifying Jesus as the Father, they continue to use this faulty reasoning with the title "First and Last."

    In Rev 19:16, Jesus is also called "King of Kings." But Dan.2:36 calls Nebuchadnezzar "King of Kings." Does this mean he and Jesus are the same? No, it's a logical fallacy. It is not logical to claim that a shared title makes these individuals equal or the same entity.

    Many individuals can share a description or title in different ways and degrees. When these share the same titles as the Son of God and Jehovah Himself, it does not mean that they are the same or equal to God. Obviously, these titles are not being used equivalently when applied to both humans and Jehovah. Notice what Allon Maxwell notes:

    "However, it is poor logic to suggest that when the same words are spoken in different places, by two different identities, those two MUST therefore be the same person! Nevertheless, that is what some theologians do with the three Bible verses which are the subject of this paper!"--BIBLE DIGEST - Number 90 November 1998; The Alpha and the Omega the First and the Last

    Second, Scripture shows that this title is not applied to Christ in the same way it is applied to Jehovah. When Jesus is called "first and last" the context is always in regard to his death and resurrection (Ac 26:23; Rev.1:5; Col. 1:18). Therefore, in every case it is used with a specific limitation defined.

    On the other hand, when Jehovah says that He is "The First and the Last" it is in an entirely different context; that He was exclusively Almighty, Omniscient, and Eternal; the absolute sovereign (Isa.44:6-8; Rev.22:12,13).

    The one called first and last in Rev.1:17 and 2:8 cannot be the same as the "First and Last" in 22:12,13/Isa.40:10; 44:6 because as "first and last" Jesus admits that he has a God over him and that he died (Rev.1:17,18; 2:8; 3:2,12). Clearly, he is neither Almighty nor previously eternal!

    Therefore, there is no valid reason to identify the "first and last" of Rev. 1:17; 2:8 with the first and last" of Isaiah.

    Further, in the context of both applications of this title to Christ it is clearly shown that Jesus is explicitly excluded grammatically from being the "Alpha and Omega" (1:4-8).

    First, in Rev. 1:8 the one called "Alpha and Omega" is not Jesus but Jehovah. Grammatically the context of 1:8 explicitly excludes Jesus from being the "Alpha and Omega" here. In verses 4,5 we have greetings from three entities: "The One Who Is, Was, and Is Coming" AND "The Seven Spirits" AND "Jesus Christ." The individual given the title "The One Who Is and Was and Is Coming" is clearly identified as the "Alpha and Omega," the "Almighty," and "Lord God." Incontestably, the Alpha and Omega is grammatically differentiated from both Jesus Christ and from the "seven spirits."

    Trinitarians must ignore the context and grammar to force this scripture to be calling Jesus Alpha and Omega.

    Second, the "Alpha and Omega" is explicitly classed as "Almighty," yet in all nine occurrences of the word "Almighty" Jesus is contextually--ontologically and grammatically–separated from and thus excluded from being the One called Almighty! (1:8; 4:8; 11:17; 15:3; 16:7,14; 19:6,15; 21:22).

    Third, the Alpha and Omega is identified as being God over Jesus in 1:6. Further, in 1:1 and 2:26,27 Jesus receives knowledge and power from his God and Father.

    Therefore, it is impossible for Jesus to be the Almighty Alpha and Omega since Jesus himself expresses his inferiority to the Alpha and Omega by declaring six times that he has a God (Rev.1:6; 3:2,12 NIV, ASV, RSV). Almighty God cannot have a God!

    Jesus is specifically excluded from receiving the title Alpha Omega anywhere in Revelation and the title refers exclusively to Jehovah, the only Almighty God (Ps.83:18; Jn.17:3).

    Every explicit scripture shows that at every point of his existence Jehovah is Jesus' God and Jesus was less than Almighty God (Mic.5:2-4; Jn. 14:28; 20:17; Mk.13:32; Rom.15:6; Rev.3:2,12). At the highest position he will ever attain, Jesus is still "subject" to *GOD* the same way we are "subject" to him (1Cor.15:27,28).

    Yours,

    BAR-ANERGES

  • 7 years ago

    One is the word the father the son is the word made flesh. The word always comes first then the flesh 2cd . The flesh the son is after the father. As a babe could not live without parents or a person in a coma without doctors. The flesh needs word to live.

  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    I found this a jw.org:

    Jehovah is “the God of truth.” (Psalm 31:5) We see this from what Paul next writes: “No matter how many the promises of God are, they have become ‘yes’ by means of him,” that is, by means of Christ. Because Jesus kept his integrity while on earth, we can be sure that Jehovah’s promises are reliable. Paul continues: “Therefore, also through him [Jesus] is the ‘Amen’ said to God, which brings him glory through us.” (2 Corinthians 1:20) What does it mean that Jesus is the “Amen”? It means that Jesus is the guarantee that all of Jehovah’s promises will come true.

    Jehovah is God. He has always been. Jesus is the FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION - Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. In this sense, Jesus is the beginning.

    I found this at jw.org: ALPHA AND OMEGA

    These are the names of the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet and are used as a title three times in the book of Revelation. The additional occurrence of this phrase in the King James rendering of Revelation 1:11, however, does not receive support from some of the oldest Greek manuscripts, including the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephraemi rescriptus. It is, therefore, omitted in many modern translations.

    While many commentators apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examination of its use restricts its application to Jehovah God. The first verse of Revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus. (Re 22:8) Thus Revelation 1:8 (RS) says: “‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God [“Jehovah God,” NW], who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Although the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus, it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to “the Almighty” God. In this regard Barnes’ Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: “It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here . . . There is no real incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such.”

    The title occurs again at Revelation 21:6, and the following verse identifies the speaker by saying: “Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I shall be his God and he will be my son.” Inasmuch as Jesus referred to those who are joint heirs with him in his Kingdom as “brothers,” not “sons,” the speaker must be Jesus’ heavenly Father, Jehovah God.—Mt 25:40; compare Heb 2:10-12.

    The final occurrence of the title is at Revelation 22:13, which states: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” It is evident that a number of persons are represented as speaking in this chapter of Revelation; verses 8 and 9 show that the angel spoke to John, verse 16 obviously applies to Jesus, the first part of verse 17 is credited to “the spirit and the bride,” and the one speaking in the latter part of verse 20 is manifestly John himself. “The Alpha and the Omega” of verses 12-15, therefore, may properly be identified as the same one who bears the title in the other two occurrences: Jehovah God. The expression, “Look! I am coming quickly,” in verse 12, does not require that these aforementioned verses apply to Jesus, inasmuch as God also speaks of himself as “coming” to execute judgment. (Compare Isa 26:21.) Malachi 3:1-6 speaks of a joint coming for judgment on the part of Jehovah and his “messenger of the covenant.”

    The title “the Alpha and the Omega” carries the same thought as “the first and the last” and “the beginning and the end” when these terms are used with reference to Jehovah. Before him there was no Almighty God, and there will be none after him. He will bring to a successful conclusion the issue over Godship, forever vindicated as the one and only Almighty God.—Compare Isa 44:6.

    I encourage you to visit jw.org to answer your questions about Jehovah's Witnesses and any of their teachings. For example, if you wanted to clear up some misunderstanding about yourself, wouldn't you want people to come to you, instead of someone else? Enjoy.

    Source(s): Holy Scriptures and jw.org.
  • Anonymous
    7 years ago

    Yes, indeed it does--just as the doctrine of the Trinity teaches.

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