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Lv 4

Christians.....?

Now most sects in Christianity believe in the Trinity.

That being the case, What did Abraham believe in, or Noah, or Moses, or Joseph or Solomon or David etc.

Did they also believe in the Trinity.

Try and prove your point. Simple question.

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  • Anonymous
    6 years ago
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    True Christians do not believe in the Trinity !

    For many thousands of years Gods own people did not worship a Trinity, in fact they taught the following,.....”hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:” Deuteronomy 6:4 NAV

    The Jews were very different from the surrounding nations who DID worship a triad of Gods, such as the Babylonians and the Egyptians who were well know for it, however Gods people were different as they were monotheistic and were not influenced by the pagans triad worshipping. This is one of the reason why Israel were warned about affiliating with the surrounding nations, so that they did not end up worshipping their false Gods!

    Jesus backed up that belief when in prayer to his heavenly father said,...”"This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17: 3. Notice how he calls his father the ONLY TRUE GOD!

    The first century Christians taught the same when they preached for example 1 Cor 15: 24-28 where we see in Vs 24 that Jesus has a GOD AND FATHER and that in Vs 28 he SUBJECTS himself to his God & Father!

    So with just these 3 scriptures we can disprove the false Trinity !

    Unfortunately the Christian congregation by the forth century had given in to the surrounding nations triad form of worship, this was the great Apostasy that Paul had foretold would set in after he was gone, and the Trinity doctrine was then born there in Constantinople in the 4th century. This was contrary to what the first century Christians taught !

    See

    The Truth About the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit

    http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teac...

  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    Almost certainly they did not believe in a trinity God.

    As far as scholars have been able to determine, the first description of a trinity God - in ANY religion - was the Christian description, which (naturally) appears in the Christian era - centuries after all of the people you mentioned lived. The oldest written description of what we now recognize as the Christian doctrine of trinity is dated to 216 C.E.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitarianism_in_th...

    Unfortunately, I don't know of an online reference that discusses the earliest trinity doctrines. Some that are relevant are

    - Theophilus of Antioch, first known usage of the word, found in the above link

    - Hindu trinity, typically the origin is dated to the 5th-6th century C.E., though a **sort of** "primitive trinity" (appropriately-accredited scholars are pretty consistent in NOT describing it as "trinity") dates to a few centuries earlier, if I remember correctly, first century C.E.

  • 6 years ago

    I don't think any of them "believed" in the trinity because that was simply an aspect of God that hadn't been revealed yet. I don't think the nature of God was something any of them were even all that concerned about, except possibly David. consideriing that all the people you mentioned had direct contact with God telling them what He wanted from them, they were far more concerned with that. God revealed to each of them exactly as much as they needed to see to do what He wanted them to do. What all of these people have in common is that they "believed in" what God said, His promises and directions, what He revealed to them, and that is what is important. They didn't NEED to even HEAR about the doctrine of the Trinity. That doesn't make it any less true. Also, all of the men you mentioned, with the exception of Noah, clearly expressed that God is incomprehensible, impossible to understand, far beyond what we can even imagine. So if they HAD heard of the Trinity, I don't think they would have been surprised or have rejected it. Also, the doctrine of the Trinity is like a scientific theory...it is an attempted explanation of phenomena based on known facts about a topic...it is simply the best reasonable organization and explanation of the facts about God presented in the Bible that the human mind could come up with. It is absolutely lacking because our understanding of God is lacking, both because we don't have the full picture and because our minds can't even comprehend the full picture. So the Trinity is only an attempted explanation, it is not vitally important to be accepted as unquestioned truth, because it's NOT. But it is important to recognize that Jesus is God, that the Holy Spirit is God, that the Father of Jesus is God, and that they are one in some way, yet distinct in themselves. That Scripture teaches this cannot be denied (reasonably). However you choose to explain this to yourself to try to make sense of it is up to you, but most people agree that the doctrine of the Trinity is the best that people can come up with and maintain Scriptural teachings.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    There's no support for the trinity in the OT AFAIK. You need "the son" part of the trinity, and that simply wasn't present in Judaism. The one place where there's explicit support for the trinity in the NT is in 1 John 5:7-8 in translations such as the various editions of the KJV (1st published in 1611):

    "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    There are other places where the father, son and holy spirit are mentioned in the NT, but nowhere else are they described as being three component entities of a single god.

    The KJV was based off of Tyndale's translation (92% of it is the same) which was in turn based off the 2nd edition of the 1st ever printing press printing of the bible in the Greek language (by Erasmus). Erasmus' 1st edition didn't have those lines because the 10 Greek manuscripts he was using as source material didn't include it. This upset Catholic church leaders who were used to seeing it in their Latin Vulgate manuscripts, so they insisted that he include it, going so far as to copy a fresh new manuscript in Greek, translating the verses from their Latin Vulgate manuscripts back into Greek (Koine Greek being the original language of the NT), and inserting them. Erasmus, presented with this brand new Greek manuscript including the controversial verses, agreed to alter his bible and he thus made a second edition. Which is how it got into the KVJ.

    The 10 manuscripts that Erasmus used were not particularly ancient or good ones, but they were correct to have omitted those verses, since those verses have been demonstrated by bible scholars since then to have been inserted into the Latin Vulgate manuscripts the church was using many centuries after our earliest and best Koine Greek fragments and complete books. See my source for more information.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    Actually they didn't even understand that the Holy Spirit was God but yet to them the existence of God was revealed to them by the Holy Spirit. They knew that God's abode is Heaven but they didn't understand that the prophets whom the Holy Spirit spoken to was actually God here on earth. Of course in the Old Testament the prefigured coming of Jesus was foretold as the Messiah it was not revealed to them that He would be God in the flesh. The Christians acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah and to them it was revealed He was God in the flesh. The Christians also understood that the Holy Spirit is God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one and the same God but they are their own Divine Persons (individuals).

    The Devil keeps people in the dark (ignorant) about Jesus being God in the flesh and about the Holy Spirit being God. So even if they read the New Testament these things are not revealed to them they remain blind.

  • Mark
    Lv 5
    6 years ago

    all of those people you mentioned are before the life of Jesus Christ.

    the Christian word = Christ like one and it is meant Christians try and live there life according to the teaching of Jesus Christ. The trinity did not exist before Christ was born. or the idea of the trinity.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    We don't have anything to examine to make any assertion about Abraham, Noah or Joseph. We do have scriptures written by Moses, Solomon and David. From those scriptures I would have to say yes, they did see God as a "Trinity".

  • BriaR
    Lv 7
    6 years ago

    As Abraham supposedly existed before Jesus was born he wasn't a christian!

  • Laura
    Lv 4
    6 years ago

    The trinity is a pagan doctrine n it was not practised in the first century.

  • 6 years ago

    not likely

    Abe etc were probably not strictly monotheist anyway

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