OK, VW cheated. How about other car makers, are you sure they dont lie ? ;-) Come on.?

The original research that found this tested 2 VW's and a BMW. Initially the researchers thought their tests were wrong. When they tested the BMW they got the results they expected after the official test.

This is when they realised there was a problem.

Other car makers engineers have been wondering why they have struggled to get as good results as VW. I think they now have found out.

Some car makers have learned that everyone makes mistakes but honesty is the best policy.

They all tell whatever lies they feel safe getting away with, but this one was bound to blow up in VW's face sometime. The deception against regulatory agencies is the most serious - you can fool consumers all you want but trying to fool regulators is crazy. If VW can't get a handle on this, with an acceptable fix, they will lose a bundle (as much as $18 billion dollars) and their stock prices will drop like a stone. It could threaten the company itself but I suspect that would be handled by scaling back to maintain operations on a sharply reduced budget until they can reestablish themselves and the storm blows over. They are German - they can do it.

Yes GM with ignition switch failures, producing cars with that crap for 10 years knowing that the car could switch off at anytime without warning, Ford pinto gas tank explosion, Honda Takata air bag recall, Chrysler 2.7l oil sludge , Toyota sludge/ unintended accelerarion, and Audi 5000 unintended acceleration the list goes on. To answer your question yes they lie, for cost and other BS so no one is inocent on this topic. But you gotta laugh when you think of penalties VW has to pay that big nasty 18 billion fine as well as deal with law suits of the sort. Think of all the pissed off consumers (owners) in this situation. And to make it worse they commited false advertisement clean diesel. So yes all car company's lie to protect the mighty Benjamin franklin.

Yes, it likely happens all the time. Some never get caught. Other things just might not be as sensational as the "we all knew diesels were dirty" kind of news. It seems that the "VW diesel scandal" is on the headlines more than the Honda airbags that were blowing shrapnel in accident victims faces or the old Ford Pintos that dumped their fuel and lit up in a ball of fire every time one got rear-ended.

sure

some of the biggest civil suits in history are about auto manufacturers doing the wrong thing

doesnt mean they shouldnt still be held to account as deceptions become known