An independent mom knows how to do her own damn crap she don't need a man to help her with the kids; he wants to do so on his own fine ?

Single mothers are a cancer to society. Good luck raising those future criminals.

That's a lie! Knowing how to be a father is impossible, the best she can do is be a good mother. Whether the parents are together or not, they each made the children, and they need to each help equally with the child because they need the love and attention, both ways, each parent/child. It isn't fine that he has a choice, and a woman is just expected...etc. (of course, if it's crap she has, it's independence along with it, and possibly the children be better off with the father, just sayin..this is what you wrote), so I'm mentioning this too as a finish line.

Why do mothers have to be independent? It takes two to make a child, and I think two parents are usually better than one. What is the problem with a child knowing his or her father, bonding with that parent? As a single parent, I valued the break from 24 hour a day, seven days a week, child care. I'm not sure what your question is, or why it is stated so aggressively. But children aren't crap. And they need a father in their lives.

Are you expecting us to comment on your statement?

It is worth noting that most women are not capable of raising a child without help. While independent mothers are commendable, they aren't a representation of female capability. More times than not, a man who abandons his off-spring doesn't result in a situation that one would describe as "fine".

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I just read your additional details. It seems I've misinterpreted your question. I'd just like to clarify that a woman who is organised and knows how to do housework does not qualify as an "independent mother". She probably doesn't even qualify as a mother at all.

The rest of your ramblings are irrelevant to the majority of parents on this planet. Who are you to decide what a mothers or fathers job is? And whose job is more important?

My mother has worked 12-14 hours, 5 days a week, for the majority of her marriage. But she has never picked up a vacuum cleaner. Am I supposed to dismiss her as a bad mother?

That's a statement, not a question

Eggs are frozen, don't care

I thought parenting was the job of two people, not one.