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Is this a "normal" thing that happens in college or is it just me? Im going through a lot and feel TERRIBLE!!?
I'm in my early 20's. My school is a public commuter college. Anyway, this is not the 1st time has happened. It's almost EVERY year. This semester I have 2 male profs I sit in the back of class, to the side, in a room of about 25-34 students for both classes. One of my profs is in his 50's, the other very late 30's possibly. My prof in his 50's keeps looking at me during class and creates nicknames for me. While taking an exam I asked him a question I didn't understand, and instead of helping me he whispered to me " Are you married or single?" I was so shocked and said, "What?" And he said it again and after avoiding the question he says "oh I was just kidding I know your shy which is why I asked.
Now my other professor in his very early 40's is married. On the 1st day of class he kept looking at me and making ALOT of eye contact with me in the back of the room. I'm not the ONLY person or girl sitting in the back. He would make comments about ppl sitting in the back of the room. The eye contact got so frequent I started keeping my eyes down. When I had to work in groups with my fellow classmates it felt like he impulsively sat in a chair right next to me, leaned in closer to me and started watching what I was doing on my iPad and said "uh oh" in a teasing way. Another time I came to class in a yellow dress,for an event I had to do after class, the man looked me In the face then down at my breast and started smiling at me. He lit up! What have I done to deserve this?!?! 😔
Update: The man keeps giving me the SAME grades on all my papers. I didn't do a paper once and asked if he accepts late papers. He said yes and that he takes off a 1pt. When I handed in my paper and got it back He only took of .3pts instead. why lie? For my final paper I got a grade that's in the top 5% of the class. Once I was in deep thought about an assignment he gave and He calls on me out of nowhere and says "is everything ok, name)? How the hell did he see me thinking? I felt embaressed!
Sorry for an typos. I'm writing very fast on my iPad and auto correct is making things worse. Also I forgot to mention that my 30 something ur old professor even brought up in class students and professors acknowledging each other because I unintentionally did not wave back at him when I walked into the building as he was on line getting coffee. I didn't really see him and I just got off the train which had Soo many delays. I was having a bad morning! Why throw shade at me back?!?!
I'm treated like a child. I just feel distressed and angry and seeking more advice. I just want to respect. I even consulted one of my older family members on the matter. The older professor saw me once putting in lip balm as I was waiting for the elevator alone and had the nerve to sneak up on me and say "girls only do that when they're getting ready to kiss someone" and he put his cheek to my face to kiss him. I refused!!!
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- 5 years agoFavorite Answer
I couldn't help but feel some type of way after reading some of the responses as well as your question. First and foremost, let me say this. YOU ARE BEING SEXUALLY HARASSED! I've lived to long, had to many jobs and experienced to much to ignore you. In one extent you maybe overthinking the 2nd one. There is not enough evidence to fully accuse him. However, he is being a bit suspicious. People act like professors aren't human and are straight laced people without sexual desire. One thing I tell people ALL THE TIME. You are HUMAN first, your profession 2nd.
Report the 1st professor please. What worried me about your safety was the fact he cornered you while you waiting for the elevator alone to ask you for a kiss. Some of the answers on here act line of one is outrageous the other can't be. Lol. It could be coincidence, you could be drawing from that one experience and projecting onto the other. However, it's not abnormal. Sometimes when a woman goes through something traumatic they tend to project the slightest signal of inappropriate behavior onto someone else who reminds them of the offender. Rape on campuses is no taboo. I'm not saying you were, but you need to becareful with that other professor. You do not need counseling! It makes no type of sens how you can assume a young woman needs counseling because one professor is showing OBVIOUS signs of harassment and the other isn't. She's misreading. I dealing with work cases all the time. One answered is right Sexual haressment does not have to be "physical" it's about how something makes you "feel". Read the clause for sexual haressment carefully. I'm sure your school has a policy on that and your case sounds like it fits it to a "T".
At the same time you also need to take responsibility as well. You are a young woman and need to start standing up for yourself. If what they are doing is making you feel uncomfortable politely talk to both professors and say "professor such and such and would appreciate it if you did not pick on me all the time or I feel like you pick on me all the time. Do NOT accuse them of anything! They can easily deny it. Do it in a way that makes you look oblivious yet are aware that they are picking on you.
Best of luck! No young woman should have to go through this.
- 5 years ago
OMG! That's horrible. It's unfortunate I just saw your question now. : ( anyway this is a normal thing that happens on campus. Professors flirt with students all the time. I've seen it. Also, since you go to a public commuter college (I don't know what country or state) it's not uncommon for students of ALL ages to go to schools like that. Therefore, the instructorshould automatically be giving EVERY student R-E-S-P-E-C-T. I've been in a class where two students were actually OLDER than the professor. Your tuition is their paycheck(esp at a private college). I suggest you report the first man and keep documentation on the 2nd one for when it becomes too unbearable you have built up a case against him and present evidence of date and time this happened. Also, I don't know why u are being "shamed" for seeking advice on how to deal with two perverted men. It's obvious they are attracted to you. One has more guts to be outgoing about it than the other. However, it is the Internet. There are trolls and just because you are a top contributer doesn't mean you have someone's best interest at heart. You don't need counseling. It's understandable why you would see things the way you do.
I do agree with everyone else on this aspect try to transfer out of your school. Too bad you weren't able to find out the statistics of sexual assault on campus. That first professor almost cornering you to ask for a kiss angers me. Next time do more research.
Source(s): A much older current Grad student - 5 years ago
The first guy who wanted a kiss from you sexually harassed you. I'm not sure about the other one. It's hard to tell. But I understand the concern for sure. You're not a minor in age, so that's out of the way. But, if you express that you don't want to be bothered when and if he/they make sexual remarks, advances, or innuendos, and then they do it anyway, that is considered legal ground to report them for sexual harassment. Although people may have tendencies or desires to flirt with others in public, it does not mean it's permissible when the person being targeted doesn't like it and shows signs of not liking it, especially when you're in a position of being "subordinate". Don't listen to nonsense that you need counseling. Don't we all... If you want it, by all means, there's nothing wrong with that. But don't feel ashamed for not wanting the sexual attention you've received. On a different note, if you're wearing revealing/tight/sexy clothes, it would make it extremely difficult for even heterosexual females not to stare at you if you have a great figure. So keep that in mind. I hope you find peace and clarity. Always protect yourself, no one else can as well as you.
- Anonymous5 years ago
Here's what I get from this whole thing.
Report your professors AND the get the hell out of dodge city!! Your school sounds very dodgy.
Report them now because if your don't they will keep doing it and you Don't know how many girls they have done this to. You are not the only one. This first one is an Obvious deviant and the 2nd one is bending the rules so that he can perv on you. All men have some perv in them. Your class is a tad big for that bullshit and to be singled out. If your doing well in class they don't need to focus on you. They're attention should be on the ones that are struggling. What's happening to you is normal, but not if you get what I mean. Across the country there are teachers that perv on students all the time, but at the same time a good academic experience is one where the teacher keeps a professional distance. These ones seem too invested in you.
Cheers!
Source(s): A male mind. Also, as someone who ACTUALLY works in mental health u do not need counseling. Nothing you wrote shows sings of mental issues. Maybe slightly paranoid because of what's going on, but that's understandable based on your experiences. I've worked with neurotic ppl ur not even close... - How do you think about the answers? You can sign in to vote the answer.
- 5 years ago
I'm disturbed as F#%k by what I just read!!! Um....honey you NEED to report these men (well, at least one of them). Your first professor is VERY INAPPROPRIATE!!! You need to watch that! He should never have have cornered you and asked you to kiss him let alone create nicknames for you. Who the hell asks someone if they are married or single during an exam?!?! I'm also pretty surprised at the advice some of the answeres are giving you. You do NOT need counseling and this is NOT your fault in any way, shape or form. I'm getting a sense of blame the victim going on. I think because you are shy and quiet these men are targeting you and they can sense it on you why they are doing what they are doing. For one of them to say it's "because your shy" it's obvious that that's a personality trait that stands out on you.
Men have instincts as well. I'm sorry to hear you are going through this and it's good you consulted your family and understand where you are coming from. Do watch the 2nd one. He should never have made a remark about your looks. If you find he's singling you out and it doesn't make sense then I suggest you trust your intuition. It's true no teacher should single out a student esp at your age in your collegiate level. The fact he singled you out on the first day of school also makes me wonder about the 2nd one. You can't tell if someone is shy on the first day of class. It's the first day EVERYONE IS USUALLY SHY.
People very much assume sexual harassment has to be physical. Sexual harassment is about how someone makes you "feel" too. The constant eye contact, making inappropriate comments, the pet names, it is sexual harassment. I don't know what country your in or how far your into the semester but you have two choices ignore it or report it.
One final thing I will say the fact he keeps giving you the same grade could go two ways: your either very intelligent or he's giving you favoritism. You never mentioned if you are doing well or bad in the class. He maybe giving you favoritism because he's attracted to you or you are very smart or the ladder. It's hard to say. I feel this man is hiding behind the disguise of something and pretending. Don't worry about it too much just watch him at an angle, but keep focusing on your work. He also did throw shade because u did not acknowledge him the way he would like. What is he a damn kid?! He's much older than you. If someone didn't say "hi" you didn't say hi. It's called move on! You were having a bad morning! That's stupid to bring it up in class. He was trying to embarrass you because that's how you made him feel.
Source(s): Life. - 5 years ago
As a person who has zero experience with this but also a hands and a computer, I would say wait to report them til the end of class unless things get worse. I have seen a professor flirt with a student before so I wouldn t say it s abnormal, but being as invasive as they were is very inappropriate. Investing in some pepper spray probably wouldn t be a bad idea.
- Anonymous5 years ago
The first professor's behavior is neither normal nor appropriate. Asking about your marital status was especially inappropriate, and he should not be creating nicknames for you or anyone else. He also should not have made the kissing remark. Very, very bad form.
The other professor's behavior is less easy to characterize or condemn. You claim he stared at your breasts. Maybe he did, but unless he's constantly ogling them and other people notice, you're going to have a hard time proving it. Men look at women's breasts almost reflexively. It's sad, but they often seem to have trouble not doing virtually automatically. You're going to encounter that a lot more in life.
However, I don't think you have any call to complain about his grading, and if you were deep in thought about an assignment, chances are you looked like you were frowning in a puzzled manner. Asking if everything was OK was fine. And acknowledging a professor in public is only polite.
You're not being treated like a child by that professor, but you are overthinking all this AND being rather whiny and complaining, which is something children do. And remember that college students are pretty much still late adolescents, not full adults. Professors know that (I certainly do, because I see it all the time in my students), and it's not appropriate that for you to expect them to respect students as full adults and colleagues. They're not.
If the first professor continues to behave as he has, you have grounds for a formal complaint. Keep a record of any incidents. However, as I said, I don't think the second professor is doing anything egregiously wrong, so you do need to grow up where he's concerned.
And by the way, it wasn't appropriate for YOU to comment on HIS marital status in your long litany of complaints. It's irrelevant and really none of your business.
- TowandaLv 75 years ago
The words dirty old man come to mind. It is sexual harrassment and those men with power often pull that crap on younger girls that don't know how to fight back. They are full of their power as a professor and then use that power in real life where it doesn't work. While it is wrong and I believe in righting wrongs, you will do yourself no favor to report him. His reputation precedes him and all know just what he is. Since he hasn't really put his hands on you, just avoid his eyes and do your best to stay away from him. But just as an example, I had a very short marriage and the minute we got married he started flirting heavily with every female around him. There was a much younger girl and a cute one in the neighborhood and she had known my husband for all her life. When my husband started the unwanted advances she just said Oh Mr. ***** , are you trying to flirt with me? then she laughed and said, "you're old enough to be my father." and laughed again and then went on her way. It poked my deserving husband right in his masculinity and backed him off. Maybe that would work for you and maybe not...but its a thought. Just stay away from him and don't take anymore of his classes. If he does corner you and puts his hands on you in any way, you need to tell him that what he is doing is wrong and he needs to stay away from you. He will be offended but he needs to learn to deal with it. Many professors, although it is wrong and often against college rules, date students. He is probably just charmed by you and it makes him act the fool. Men are like that. They do such stupid things some times. Find a way to laugh him off without offending him. While I hate to tell you to not stand your ground, handling men seems to be a part of life when you are young. If it gets worse though, do what you need to do to stop it.
- 5 years ago
Not a normal thing. See your Dean of Instruction ASAP!! Don't wait. You are being harassed.
- ?Lv 75 years ago
It happens, and more often that you'd think.
If the harassment continues or worsens, contact the Office of Student Affairs, or your university's equivalent, and file a formal complaint. If you aren't sure where to turn, contact your academic adviser or the department head.