In the case of a mother and a baby, is one life more valuable than the other?

To the OP: I live in Texas. Contrary to what you may heard in the media, the state has not "cracked down" on abortions, although I'm sure the Governor and some ultra-religious conservatives would LIKE to - those people would like to abolish ALL abortions, for ANY reason. All the state has done is pass a law that prohibits elective abortions after 5 months' gestation (except in cases of danger to the life of the mother or severe abnormalities of the fetus). The law further mandated that all abortions (other than those taking place in a hospital) must be performed by a licensed doctor of medicine and must take place in a clinic that is equipped with life-saving equipment (for the benefit of the woman, not the fetus), in case of unexpected complications. If a clinic does not meet those requirements, it will receive no State funding or Medicaid payments. Pretty much the same as it's always been. The State just got the law on the books, that's all.

Probably, if the mortality rate did go up as a result, it went up among illegals, who cannot afford to pay for an abortion themselves and who receive no Medicaid benefits of any kind; and who have RARELY gone to any kind of a clinic for an abortion and have always used unlicensed doctors for such a procedure, simply because they don't want Immigration to be able to "find" them.

Yes.

The life of an already born actual person is more valuable than that of a fetus.

Honestly, I doubt your humanity if you have somehow managed to convince yourself that the life of a fetus is more valuable than the health, basic human rights, and well being of the person pregnant with it.

P.S: You aren't defending fetuses when you make abortion illegal.

You're just sentencing people who need an abortion to self harm or even death in their attempt to get an abortion anyway they can.

So I don't see where you get off trying to argue the importance of life in the first place.

P.P.S: Born children don't get choices in the first place. Why the hell would a fetus, that can't talk and can't think and that resides in the body of a person have a choice?

Are you suggesting that every time a woman has sex she is agreeing that she must risk giving up her life? That's a rather hefty assumption and strips women of basic human rights for being nothing more than women.

You cannot logically place equal value on the lives of two entities reliant on the same body for survival. Its not realistically possible when those two rights conflict. What happens when the woman's life is at risk due to the pregnancy? If you hold both lives as equal you cannot allow abortion to save her life as it would be giving priority, but if you do nothing both will die. When giving the fetus rights you are essentially overriding and removing several of the woman's.

You would no longer see abortion due to severe fetal abnormality - we don't kill adults no matter how sick they may be as they have the right to life so applying that right to a fetus means that you're going to see women forced to carry doomed pregnancies, either waiting to miscarry or made to carry to term only to birth a corpse. That's pretty effing inhumane for both parties.

The consequences would result in the woman being treated as less human and with less rights than what she is carrying, simply because she is pregnant. That's why we say the person who has priority decisions over what happens in the actual owner of the body - the woman.

In the medical community, doctors will ALWAYS try to stabilize and save Mom first, regardless of how far along the pregnancy is. Their first priority is Mom. So yes, in that instance, the mom's life is more important than the unborn child's.

I fail to see how you can value the life of the child and discount the life of the mother.

The point is it's not a baby until it's born.

do you mean fetus. In the case of a fetus the mothers life holds more value if she chooses it to.

How honey ,that of your idea,just good,kill them not we really.

And does anybody care???