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Jehovah s Witness, are you allowed to publicly disagree with any teaching that cimes from the faithful and discreet slave?
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- StephLv 75 years agoFavorite Answer
No, definitely not. That is deliberate dissent and is punishable.
Deliberately spreading teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses: (Acts 21:21, ftn.; 2 John 7, 9, 10) Any with sincere doubts should be helped. Firm, loving counsel should be given. (2 Tim. 2:16-19, 23-26; Jude 22, 23) If one obstinately is speaking about or deliberately spreading false teachings, this may be or may lead to apostasy. If there is no response after a first and a second admonition, a judidal committee should be formed. -Titus 3:10, 11; w89 10/1 p. 19; w86 4/1 pp. 30- 31; w86 3/15 p. 15.
Causing divisions and promoting sects: This would be deliberate action disrupting the unity of the congregation or undermining the confidence of the brothers in Jehovah's arrangement. It may involve or lead to apostasy. -Rom. 16:17, 18; Titus 3:10, 11; it-2 p. 886.
The above are guidelines in the elders "Shepherd the Flock of God" book...the one everyone calls the "secret book" because of how strictly it is monitored and kept from everyone else. What is quoted is from pages 65-66.
If elders stay true to how they generally do things, you're out after one time speaking out about or going against what the governing body teaches. You're not likely to get multiple chances. You will be labeled an apostate and removed. You will cease to exist to everyone else and the apostate label carries the worst of it. People will LITERALLY treat you like you have a deadly, infectious disease.
So, no....they don't get to publicly question what is taught. Keep in mind that disunity and spreading another teaching means 'anything even slightly different than exactly what is taught by the faithful and discrete slave'. Dissent is squashed. This is what cults do.
- DP.Lv 65 years ago
If you ask a deluded man if he's deluded will he say yes?
In like manner if you ask a JW if they can disagree with JWorg they will also say yes!
..the reality is that....
on a superficial idiotic level they are actually right in claiming they are allowed to disagree publicly because nothing actually stops them... but such an answer is either deluded or deceit. The truth is that if any JW did publicly disagree with even the slightest doctrine of JWorg they would be counseled and if they didn't go silent or retract they would be disfellowshipped and then shunned as an apostate. You don't have to believe me (or others) simply go to youtube and look up the testimony of many ex-JWs who were basically thrown out for disagreeing with JWorg.
- Hannah J PaulLv 75 years ago
We are allowed to do as did Philetus and Hymenaeus in the first century. See the account at 2 Timothy 2:17, 18. Here, I shall quote it for you from the Holman Christian Standard Bible:
βAnd their word will spread like gangrene; Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them. They have DEVIATED FROM THE TRUTH, saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and are OVERTURNING the faith of some.β [emphasis mine]
They publicly disagreed with the teaching concerning the resurrection. And that disagreement was a deviation. Frankly, Jehovah's Witnesses can disagree publicly with anything they want, just like Hymenaeus and Philetus. I would not, however, recommend the behavior of those two men. I do not think any good Christian would. The Bible certainly does not. Do you?
Many come at us with the blunt weapons of all the Goliaths who wish to denounce and destroy the servants of God. I come to them with the word of Jehovah God, sharper than any two-edged sword . . . able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart. Hebrews 4:12. Those intentions are exposed. And they often prove less than honourable. These ones should be careful that in gnashing their teeth, they do not grind them down to stubs and leave themselves a toothless Goliath.
Hannah J Paul
- ?Lv 65 years ago
No. Openly disagreeing with the teachings of the Governing Body gets you labeled as an apostate. If found guilty of doing this and you're judged by the elders as being unrepentant, you get disfellowshipped - expelled from the group and shunned by all the members, including your own family!
Many JWs are ashamed to openly acknowledge this fact and they will be evasive about it. Some will even blatantly lie by denying it. Typically, they will say something along the lines of:
"Before you become one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you have the opportunity to look into every Bible teaching. If you disagree with us, do not become one of Jehovah's Witnesses. After extensive Bible education, if you agree with us and worshiped God with us, why would you publicly disagree with us years later?"
But this is a rather naive and simplistic response that does not take this fact into consideration: the teachings of the "faithful and discreet slave" undergoes changes with time. So an individual may have gotten baptized in the 1990s when he agreed with all JW teachings being taught at that time. But 25 years later the teachings of the religion changes to other things that he would never have agreed to back then, nor can agree to now. Is it fair to punish him for not accepting teachings that he never agreed to at his baptism?
By way of an illustration, imagine that you signed a contract after reviewing and agreeing to the terms written in it. Later, the other party to the contract, unilaterally and without your permission or input, changes the terms of the signed contract to other terms that you never would have agreed to and expects you to go along with the changes or else he will sue you, and he tells you that you signed the contract and must honor it.
That pretty much illustrates what Watchtower does to its followers. JW "bible students" agree with the current teachings of the organization and get baptized on the premise that they're teaching the truth. But the organization can then later change these teachings to be contrary to what the person accepted as truth when he got baptized, and he's expected to still "tow the Watchtower line" by going along with these new teachings that he never agreed to at baptism and would not have gotten baptized had they been taught then. If he doesn't go along he's branded as an apostate and expelled and is accused of breaking his contract with god. And JWs foolishly say that the time to disagree with teachings is before you get baptized. But how does one getting baptized in 1995 get to know of and disagree with, teachings that will come into effect in 2013? Is he supposed to get a time machine? They are wicked idiots!
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- ?Lv 45 years ago
Yes they can but the consequence is disfellowship which is why most of the ones who disagree won't say it out loud.
- Anonymous5 years ago
Before you become one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you have the opportunity to look into every Bible teaching. If you disagree with us, do not become one of Jehovah's Witnesses. After extensive Bible education, if you agree with us and worshiped God with us, why would you publicly disagree with us years later?
- Anonymous5 years ago
Not unless they want to lose their JW family and friends when they're disfellowshipped for doing so. Many people stay in this cult because they can't stand the thought of being alone. It's all about control.
- πLv 65 years ago
Yes. We can. BUT I don't want to because I haven't heard anything so beautiful in my life. Plus, I wouldn't want the GB to know I said this. So don't tell, ok? Pinky promise? ππ
Source(s): Praise Jehovah, Always and don't you forget it maannnnnn. ππππππππ - Anonymous5 years ago
no of course they cannot. THEY BLOCK ALL TRINITY Christians forever....they do not want to know the truth. its a cult to avoid.
How dumb is that!
- Anonymous5 years ago
No. disagreeing with the GB is apostasy which will leave you disfellowshiped if you do not repent