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New motorcycle rider question...brake around corner??
I just got my m2 endoresment and saving up for bike soon.should get one in next month or so.but i have a question...during the brc course i took they said i should never brake in a corner,which i know is bad...i dont even do that in a car or truck because you can still lose traction,but on a car or truck you still can rather saftley in a pinch. But scince i got licence ive been paying more attention to road in my car. I noticed on my way to work theres at least 2 red lights that are almost right in the middle of some decently sharp curves.speed limit is 45 mph and it is comming right out of the twisty backroads.whats the best way to stop? I know i should slow down before the curve just in case but i cant see if the light is red or green untill im already in the curve.so if i take the curve and the light turns red how do i go about stoping safley? Should i just use the back brake? Downshift? Thanks any input is appreciated
3 Answers
- Mr. SmartypantsLv 75 years ago
The idea is (your instructor probably explained it) that you only have so much traction. Accelerating or braking or turning use up some of that traction, so braking -hard- in a corner can cause your tires to break loose from the pavement and down you go. It's not a problem in a car because (1) a car has a lot more rubber on the road so it doesn't break loose as easily and (2) A car can slide sideways a foot or two, then regain traction, with no serious consequences.
If you see a stop coming up in a curve, you can slow down gradually. Engine braking works (so long as you can release the clutch gently). And just a little rear brake is okay. The real problem is when you're all heeled over, trying to get through the curve just as fast as you can. This is also a serous problem with 'condensing radius' curves (sometimes called 'fish hooks').
There's a highway that goes up into the hills northeast of Los Angeles called the Angeles Crest Highway. On a nice Summer weekend the road is crawling with motorcycles. There's a guy who sets up a video camera at one particular curve to watch the hotdogs take it too fast and slide out. There are long compilations of these spills on YouTube. If you're not playing Boy Racer, curves like this aren't particularly dangerous.
- dtstellwagenLv 75 years ago
You can brake on a curve, a curve is not the same as a corner. Braking into and through a corner works fine too, don't start the brake (or shift) in the middle of a corner. Never use the back brake without the front.
- jerm1027Lv 65 years ago
Personally, I do a combination of engine braking, and lightly applying the rear brake. You should never be put in this situation however - you should always be scanning your surroundings, including the conditions up ahead, and if the corner is so sharp that you can't see around it, such as a stop light in advance (a "blind corner"), then you shouldn't be taking that corner at speed. In CA, you can get a speeding ticket for going the speed limit if the conditions don't permit (such as in blind corners, rough road conditions, limited visibility, wet weather, etc.)
