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Jehovah's Witnesses: When Jehovah was alone (before he created Jesus, er, I mean Michael), who did he love? Did he just love Himself?
@Bill: "Why do you people waste your time tearing down JW's?
They believe this system has a short lifespan, now if it does not happen, then the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization will vanish, poof, disappear, but on the other hand if what thay believe & teach, is true, then all of you will not be around, you will vanish, poof, disappear."
Hey Bill, thanks for the response, but I'd like to discover truth NOW rather than wait and see. It's important to point out error since error begets error.
@Rick G. "I will ask later, after the 1000 years are done, and I have my name in the book of life."
Hi Rick. What makes you think you'll be in the Book of Life? The Bible says those whose name is written in it's pages are going to heaven, while those who are not written in the Book of Life will be cast into hell. Are you saying you're one of the 144,000?
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- 5 years agoFavorite Answer
Good question, it may be unapproachable one at present to know & understand, You might have answered yourself. Please note some principle
:(Romans 11:33-36) “33 O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and beyond tracing out his ways are! 34 For “who has come to know Jehovah’s mind, or who has become his adviser?” 35 Or, “who has first given to him, so that it must be repaid to him?” 36 Because from him and by him and for him are all things. To him be the glory forever. Amen.”
Note the principle of self-love:
(Luke 10:27, 28) “27 In answer he said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ and ‘your neighbor as YOUR SELF .’” 28 He said to him: “You answered correctly; keep doing this and you will get life.””
- Anonymous5 years ago
Well he must have loved Jesus in his prehuman existence. Just as a person has self worth to meet another and create life with that one, Jehovah showed his love by creating other life forms.
First Jesus Col 1 : 15 the only begotten Son. The two together then created all other things. Vss 16 - 17. The first to be created would have been angels then after heaven and earth at Gen 1:26 man according to their image.
Think of all the love, wisdom and power that creating heaven would entail. The moon at the right place with earth at the right distance tilted on an angle so as to get the seasons. The sun in exactly the right distance as any closer the earth would burn up any further it would freeze. The power the size of a pinhead from the sun necessitates we would need to be at least 80 kms away so we dont fry.
Everything he made with wisdom and love.
For humans the greatest gift he gave was his Sons ransom. Without it love means absolutely nothing. Life without love is nothing. GOD is love
Source(s): jw.org JW Library What does the Bible really teach - SuzyLv 75 years ago
I am a JW and will not get into talking about Jesus cause you didn't ask that. Jehovah has always been and will always be but as to what He loved before He created Michael, I truly can't say cause I was not there and do not know. I'd have to guess that He thought about what He was going to create for some time as creation is such a wonderful thing for us to be here. jw.org
- Anonymous5 years ago
I am not going to comment on what Jehovah's Witnesses think, but merely point them to the Bible to find out what the Bible REALLY teaches about the eternal and uncreated Word of God who was with God in the beginning and who is God (John 1:1-3).
One verse that speaks of the eternal relationship between the Father and Son is John 16:28. "I came forth from the Father, and have come into the world; I am leaving the world again, and going to the Father." Implied in this verse is again the fact that the Father/Son relationship between God the Father and God the Son is one that always has and always will exist. At His incarnation the Son “came from the Father” in the same sense as upon His resurrection He returned “to the Father.” Implied in this verse is the fact that if Jesus was the Son after the resurrection, then He was also the Son prior to His incarnation. Other verses that support the eternal Sonship of Christ would include John 17:5 and John 17:24, which speak of the Father’s love for the Son from “before the foundation of the world.”
"And now, Father,glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began" (John 17:5). See also Proverbs 8:22-31.
"Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world" (John 17:24).
There has never been a moment in time when God the Father was without the Word (who became Jesus the man) or without the Holy Spirit. All three were involved in creation. All three are co-eternal and co-equal because all three together make up the One Being who is the Lord God Almighty.
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- pugjw9896Lv 75 years ago
Jesus was the very FIRST of Jehovah's creations...
Before even the universe...
(Proverbs 8:22-31) Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago. 23 From ancient times I was installed, From the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24 When there were no deep waters, I was brought forth, When there were no springs overflowing with water. 25 Before the mountains were set in place, Before the hills, I was brought forth, 26 When he had not yet made the earth and its fields Or the first clods of earth’s soil. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there; When he marked out the horizon on the surface of the waters, 28 When he established the clouds above, When he founded the fountains of the deep, 29 When he set a decree for the sea That its waters should not pass beyond his order, When he established the foundations of the earth, 30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; 31 I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men.
EARLIEST of his achievements...
Written plain for all to see.
After being created, Jesus, [ as Michael the arch angel ] spent aeons of time alongside his father BEFORE he was SENT to us on the earth.
Even Jesus said he was SENT.
(Luke 4:43) But he said to them: “I must also declare the good news of the Kingdom of God to other cities, because for this I was sent.”
- Anonymous5 years ago
GOD’S purpose for the earth is really wonderful. Jehovah wants the earth to be filled with happy, healthy people. The Bible says that “Jehovah God planted a garden in Eden” and that he “made to grow . . . every tree that was pleasing to look at and good for food.” After God created the first man and woman, Adam and Eve, He put them in that lovely home and told them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it.” (Genesis 1:28; 2:8, 9, 15) So it was God’s purpose that humans have children, extend the boundaries of that garden home earth wide, and take care of the animals.
- BJLv 75 years ago
Why do you people waste your time tearing down JW's?
They believe this system has a short lifespan, now if it does not happen, then the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization will vanish, poof, disappear, but on the other hand if what thay believe & teach, is true, then all of you will not be around, you will vanish, poof, disappear.
- ?Lv 75 years ago
Thank you for thinking that we should know this answer, because it shows that some believe that we truly do know the fringes of our Creator's way, but as Ecclesiastes 3:11 says: we will NEVER get to know all His ways, which means, that only Jehovah can truly answer this question for you, because we are just puny creatures on earth lol
- ?Lv 65 years ago
God IS love, love itself does not require another to be love only to show love.
And JW's are a cult who follow a man made imaginary god called Jehovah, and a group of sinful humans called the governing body.
- Anonymous5 years ago
Charles Taze Roussel taught that "Michael was the pope".
Ever wondered what would happen if a Jehovah's Witness or a Bible student disagreed with this teaching ?
Would be wicked even this disfellowshipped?
Ever wonder ?
Would be wicked even this disfellowshipped?
- Anonymous5 years ago
John 1: In the beginning the word ALREADY existed. The word was with God, and the word WAS God. He existed in the beginning WITH God, God created everything THROUGH him, and nothing was created except through him.
{Application Study Bible, New Living Translation}. So, the WORD, the prehuman Jesus, WAS NOT CREATED by God because HE WAS GOD!
What Jesus taught and what he did, shows that Jesus was fully human and FULLY God! He was God in the flesh!
Jesus is Jehovah and Jehovah is Jesus! Unfortunately, the JWs DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!
Their own version of the Bible, The New World Translation has been tampered with to suit their beliefs!