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fishnet asked in SportsBoxing · 4 years ago

Boxing: Are Floyd's biggest wins overrated?

Let's take a look at those "big wins":

-Mosley

-Pacquiao

-Dela Hoya

-Cotto

-Marquez

-Canelo

-Gatti

-Judah

-Castillo

-Hatton

Thoughts Amigos?

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  • ?
    Lv 6
    4 years ago
    Favorite Answer

    -Mosley: Weakened by blood being consistently taken out, drained from having to hydrate and dehydrate so much, and no PEDS. He was an old, shot, dead man walking after 2 rounds.

    -Pacquiao: A damaged left arm, and flat footed because he was refused a legal shot that was literally approved while Floyd was juiced to the gills. Don't forget that he had the refs, judges, Nevada commission, and USADA under his control. Nonetheless, slow motion film studies prove that he outlanded Floyd. Beat him 7-5, 8-4.

    -Dela Hoya: Old, shot, and had very little in the tank left. Yet, Floyd still struggled with him. Barely won a 7-5 fight, imo. An argument could be made that it was a draw.

    -Cotto: No trainer, worst stage of his career, and shot. Still, Floyd struggled with him. Barely won the 12th round by a hair. 7-5 fight.

    -Marquez: No tune ups at 147, fat, and slower than usual. Had no chance at all.

    -Canelo: Extremely green, drained (yes, he was drained. Look at him at the weigh-in. The man could barely stand), and was defeated in the negotiation tables.

    -Gatti: Old, shot, and changed from brawler to boxer so that he could extend his career. Floyd even said that he was fighting a shot c level fighter.

    -Judah: Was a good win. Judah won the first four rounds, but Floyd turned it around because Judah gassed, and he was starting to adapt as well.

    -Castillo: Clearly lost the first fight. Won the second fight. Also, his torn rotator cuff was not serious because he used his arm seemingly fine. Not only that, but he also did not require surgery or much of a break. It has never happened nor affected him again in his career. However, winning the rematch is arguably his biggest win because he came back from adversity to prove that he is the better fighter. He avenged his loss.

    -Hatton: Not a good legitimate win because he was not allowed to in fight after round 7 because of the bribed Cortez interfered. How tf is Ricky supposed to win? Also, the judges were giving Floyd most of the rounds. Only one judge gave Ricky a round. One judge!

  • ?
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Joey Archer had a record of 45-4-0 (with 8 KO wins). In November of 1965, he beat Sugar Ray Robinson by UD.

    Is Joey Archer an all time great and phenom for beating Sugar Ray Robinson?

    The devil is in the details. Sugar Ray Robinson was 44 years old and had (up to that fight) fought 199 official and unofficial boxing matches. Robinson's official record was 173-18-6 (with 108 KO wins). He was not even a shadow of what he was - he was a ghost.

    Floyd's best wins are his wins over Zab Judah, Jose Luis Castillo 2, and Miguel Cotto. All his other victories were against old, past prime & out of best division competition. He was actually outpunched and outlanded by the likes of Jose Luis Castillo (1st fight) and Manny Pacquiao (without relying on the inaccurate compubox - the product of human eyes anyways).

    What's more, Floyd HAD the opportunity to fight Casamayor, Spadafora, Freitas, Lazcano, Tszyu, 140Lb version of Hatton, 2009 Pacquiao, Margarito, Quartey, Wright, Martinez at 154Lbs, Forrest, Brook, Thurman, Porter, Lara, Andrade, Charlo brothers, J-Roc. But you know the story...those cherries won't pick themselves.

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    I'm no fan of Fraud Marybedwetter but, truth be told, he IS a gifted, talented boxer and has superior skills... but his "record" is forever tainted by cherry-picking fighters looking for a hefty retirement payday, and those recovering from serious, career-ending injuries. With all his greatness, Fraud Marybedwetter is not what I'd call a true champion; he ducked quality fighters and chose to retire in fear of having to face the likes of quality, prime boxers eager to get in the ring with him and whoop him like a naughty child; he chose to retire unexpectedly and forget his much-bragged-about effort to beat Rocky Marciano's record. And it's a real shame, really, because he IS really (or WAS) a talented and skilled boxer in his own right but didn't have the COJONES to fight prime-time boxers. So today his "fame" is a total fabrication, a fraud and myth! Why even mention him? He's not boxing now. In spite of his superb skills and talents... he only proved himself to be a loudmouth nobody!

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    Floyd is only human. He can get beat

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  • 4 years ago

    no, he fought the best. although i do agree that they may not have all been in their prime

  • 4 years ago

    No

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