Jesus is Jehovah God the Father's first born Son, the first born of all creation (Colossians 1:15)?

Interesting group of miss information being presented as answers.

Paul doesn't say Jesus is the firstborn 'over' all creation. Trinitarians want it say this. Most add this thought to Colossians 1:15 when they read 'of all creation'; but this is still wrong.

A house of cards means the house made of cards. The firstborn of all creation means Jesus is part of creation.

The fact that Jesus is over creation is told to us in verse 18; but not in vs 15.

Trinitarians also ignore the truth that Jesus is the image of God. An image of something is never the real thing.

The image of an apple is just that an image, it is not the apple.

Why does Colossians 1:18 say Jesus is over all creation, because the context is dealing the first in the order of things.

1st created, vs 15

head of the Christian body of worshippers vs 18

Again repeating he is the beginning of creation vs 18

1st one who died and went to heaven vs 18

Vs 16, 17 tells us that all other creation comes through Jesus. (since Jesus did not create himself nor did he create God, then it must be all other creation)

The understanding of verses 16, 17 is shown in the expression 'the letter came by messenger'

We know the messenger isn't the author of the letter, just the means by which the letter came.

Jesus is God's master worker (Prov 8).

The fact that Jesus died to bring mankind back to God proves Jesus can not be God because God can not die. (1 Tim 1:17)

John 1:14 tells us that Jesus was the only begotten prior to coming to the earth, so it doesn't mean 'when Jesus was born as a man' as one misrepresented scripture as.

The answer is Yes, Jesus is Jehovah God's first born son. Jesus as firstborn is God's eldest son.

(Firstborn. 1. oldest child.)

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No.

Jehovah is God.

God is the eternal union of the three "divine persons"

- the Father

- the Son (Jesus)

- the Holy Spirit

Jesus is the only begotten son of God. On the most simple and superficial level, this refers to Jesus' birth as a human. The biological father of his material, human body was God.

Col 1:15 is rendered differently in different translations. Typically in English either

(a) - firstborn (no space) of all creation

or

(b) - firstborn (no space) over all creation

(b) needs no explanation, it is simple and straightforward and self-explanatory.

(a) is much more difficult. Typically "firstborn of X" is used to mean "the first child born to parent(s) X".

But...how could Jesus be the child of all creation? Clearly that most literal interpretation is NOT correct. The falsehood of that literal interpretation is made definite in the following verses, where Jesus himself is credited as being the creator of all creation! Logically it is not possible that Jesus created all created things AND Jesus is the firstborn of all created things.

Clearly "firstborn of all creation" has a non-literal meaning, one that does NOT describe Jesus as the child of all creation. In the Bible, the firstborn male typically and legally (under Mosaic Law) has pre-eminence over the family inheritance and family name. So: the firstborn (if he survives) almost inevitably becomes the head of the house and family. This is probably the sense in which "firstborn" is being used *if* translation (a) is correct. Jesus is the head of all creation - and logically cannot possibly be the child of all creation.

Correct. Psalm 138:2(b) ...and the Word was made flesh.

Jesus is not GOD.

If he's the firstborn then he was created. The trinity scriptures go from saying all things were created "by" him to "Through him" things were created. What a weird thing, eh?

God the Father in Isaiah 44:

"6Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the First, and I am the Last; and beside me there is no God."

The Lord Jesus in Rev. 1 17-18

"17And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the First and the Last:

18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

How could the Lord Jesus claim the same thing as Lord the Father, unless He was ONE with Him?

JW is a cult controlled and brainwashed by the Witch Tower.

Jehovah is not God's name which makes your question null and void.

(Colossians 1:15)

Who(Jesus)is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature

WHY DID THE NWT DELETE "Who is the image of the invisible God,?"

Hebrews 7:3

Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abide a priest continually.

Jesus(God) is everlasting not created like Adam and Eve.

Jesus said at John 6:57: "I live because of the Father."

No. That is a JW lie.

JW's are a CULT, do not listen to them. They modified the bible and made their own version NWT.

Charles Taze Russell who founded the Jehovah's Witnesses. He prophesied the world would end in 1914.

Several issues that the JW's have with the Christian Bible...

1) What about the JW's modifying John 1:1 from ‘…was God to ‘…was 'a god' (for grammatical reasons which of course changed the meaning of the verse). Again the statement that Jesus was the only begotten Son of the Father Is stated again in John 1:14

2) The earth will last forever. ‘New Earth’ as stated in Isaiah 65:17

“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;

And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.

The current world is passing away because of sin

1 John 2:17

And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

Also ..

Romans 8:21-22

21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious

liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

3) One God..

Deuteronomy 6:4

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.”

What the JW's misunderstand is that God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one in essence not absolute.

For example, The key word “one” (Hebrew achad) is often used to denote unity in diversity. For example, when

Eve was united to Adam in marriage, they were said to be “one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). Similarly, on the third day

of creation, the waters were “gathered together unto one place,” yet this gathering together was called “Seas”

(i.e., more than one sea, Genesis 1:9-10). Dr. Henry H. Morris, ICR

Update

JW's deny the deity of Christ and have changed God's word.

1 John 4:1-2

4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God;

because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God:

Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

Rev 22:18-19

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.