Have you met Jesus?

Yes, in the sense that I talk to him everyday in my prayers to his father.

hi there

first just a comment on your details. they appear to be an advert for jws using jesus as the bait.

just saying.

so yes i have.

when i was an atheist i began to be attacked by shadow people. this continued for 3 years. they grew powerful enough to lift me off my bed and hold me suspended in the air with imprints of hands all over my body.

i tried everything to make it stop. let me tell you - sleep paralysis is inadequate as a diagnosis, as people around me could be affected too.

short version. at the end of my rope i said my first prayer to a god i didn't believe in, but hey i didn't believe in shadow people either and they were strangling me.

jesus proved he was real. he came through my room like a whirlwind and ripped the shadows off me. i could see their hands trying to hang on to my skin. then i could sleep for the first time in months.

it took me 15 years to process this and accept it. finally i came to him in prayer and thanksgiving. it took me reading the bible to recognize who he is. i know he saves because he already saved me.

it was right after this that muslims gave me dawah, and both jws and mormons knocked on my door. all telling me their own version of what is right. but i'll stick with the bible and the true jesus thank you very much

if you'd told atheist me what i'd be doing now he wouldn't have believed it.

Jehovah's witnesses have not "met Jesus" because most of us can not go to heaven as we have the earthly hope.

We study the Bible and are thankful for the sacrifice that God's only begotten son who came to die a horrific death for all mankind even those who do not believe in him, or those that do not care about him.

The 144,000 who are destine with the heavenly hope will meet him, but not the 'other sheep..."

I am a Christian.

In Christ’s prayer on behalf of the spiritual welfare of “all flesh,” (John 17:2 KJV) i.e., the whole of humanity, the Savior petitioned that the family of man “might know you [the Father], the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.” There is absolutely nothing in this passage that would allow the sincere and honest Bible student to dismiss a host of other passages that emphatically affirm the divine nature of Jesus Christ. There are two things of supreme importance in considering this passage. First, what is the thrust of the immediate context? Second, how does this text relate to other biblical data on the same theme?

It must be stressed that no text can be isolated from its immediate context and forced to teach that which plainly is in contradiction to other relevant passages of scripture on the same topic that are of the clearest import. Yet this is exactly what the “Jehovah’s Witnesses” attempt to do in manipulating this text. Several very important observations must be made to put this passage into focus.

(1) As noted above, this prayer was directed on behalf of the vast masses of humanity, a great majority of whom were (and are) idolaters, worshipping many gods, indeed “false” gods. It was entirely appropriate, therefore, that Christ pray that they might become acquainted with the “only true God.”

(2) The tragic fact is, “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are themselves polytheists to a degree. They believe that the Father is God, and that he created another “god,” namely Jesus (which idea, incidentally, scripture denies — Isaiah 43:10: “Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that YE MAY KNOW AND BELIEVE ME, and understand that I AM HE: BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER SHALL THERE BE AFTER ME.”). God said there was no god formed before Him or after Him. Therefore, Isaiah 43:10 clearly destroys the false doctrine of the Jehovah’s Witnesses that God formed Jesus as “a god” after Him. Hence, according to the Watchtower organization, Father and Son (and Spirit) do not constitute a united Deity; rather the former two are God/god, i.e., two gods. Watchtower dogma is nonsensical regarding this very prayer from the Savior.

(3) The companion phrases “the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent,” demonstrate the unique relationship between the sacred two. The construction hints of a UNITY OF NATURE THAT IS TAUGHT QUITE EMPHATICALLY IN NUMEROUS OTHER TEXTS. In fact, several times subsequently in this very chapter (see vv. 9, 20)

John 17:9 (KJV): I PRAY FOR THEM: I pray not for the world, but for them WHICH THOU HAST GIVEN ME; FOR THEY ARE THINE. [This verse certainly implies an equality.]

John 17:20 (KJV): Neither PRAY I for these alone, but FOR THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE ON ME through their word [Do we believe in God-The Father, or God-The Son, or both.]

In referring to requests that Jesus is making of the Father, Jesus selects the Greek term “erotao.” This is a word that Christ employs exclusively of the communication between Himself and the Father, which suggests a relationship not shared by others. Clearly, THE SAVIOR WAS NOT REPUDIATING HIS OWN DEITY.

In addition to the above, John refers to Christ Himself as “the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father” (Jn. 1:18), as the language reads according to the best Greek texts. Or, as the English Standard Version (ESV) has it, “the only God.” Does the expression, “only God,” as used of Christ, exclude the Father? Certainly not, and neither would the phraseology of 17:3 exclude the Son.

Or consider these texts.

(1) “Only” God was worthy of worship (Matthew 4:10: Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, THOU SHALT WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.), and yet Christ accepted worship (Matthew 14:33: THEN THEY THAT WERE IN THE SHIP CAME AND WORSHIPPED HIM, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.), thus CHRIST WAS NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE DEITY CLASS.

(2) “Only” God is absolutely wise (Romans 16:27: To GOD ONLY WISE, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen), yet Paul affirms that it is “IN HIM [Christ] that ALL THE TREASURES OF WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE [ARE] HIDDEN” (Colossians 2:3). The language clearly EXALTS THE WISDOM/KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS BEYOND THAT OF MERE HUMANITY (cf. Romans 11:33: O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!), and identifies him as divine (Colossians 2:9: For in him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.).

(3) “Only” God is “holy” in the absolute sense (Rev. 15:4: Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for THOU ONLY ART HOLY: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.), and yet that unique sense of holiness is repeatedly attributed to Christ:

Luke 1:35: And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also THAT HOLY THING WHICH SHALL BE BORN OF THEE SHALL BE CALLED THE SON OF GOD.

Acts 2:27: Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, NEITHER WILT THOU SUFFER THINE HOLY ONE to see corruption.

Acts 3:14: BUT YE DENIED THE HOLY ONE and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you.

God-The Father, called holy, as also Christ, God-The Son, called holy; just as The Father. BOTH GOD-THE FATHER AND GOD-THE SON ARE DEITY AND ARE HOLY.

(4) Then there is also this affirmation in one of John’s epistles. He writes concerning Jesus, “we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life” (1 John 5:20). A very strong case can be made for the identification of “Jesus” as the one designated as “the true God.” If Christ can be “the true God,” with no reflection cast upon the Father, then the Father can be “the true God,” with no disenfranchisement of Christ intended.

(5) John’s writings are replete with declarations of the full deity of Jesus.

John 1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.

John 1:18: No man hath seen God at any time, THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 5:17-18: But Jesus answered them, MY FATHER worketh hitherto, AND I WORK. Therefore the JEWS SOUGHT THE MORE TO KILL HIM, BECAUSE he not only had broken the sabbath, but SAID ALSO THAT GOD WAS HIS FATHER, MAKING HIMSELF EQUAL WITH GOD.

John 8:58: “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM.” “I Am” was clearly recognized in the Old Testament as deity!

John 10:30: “I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.” A man nor an angel can be one with God.!

John 20:28: “And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD AND MY GOD.” So Thomas, referred to The Christ as Lord and God!

To dismiss all of these, in deference to an agenda-laden, forced interpretation of one phrase in John 17:3, REVEALS A CULTISH BIAS THAT IS BLINDED TO A CONSISTENT, COMMON-SENSE APPROACH TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.

The Watchtower contention regarding John 17:3, therefore, is entirely void of merit.

In Christ's name,

What an odd question for a JW to ask!

Since you don't believe Jesus is omnipresent and do mental cartwheels to explain how He will "never" leave us, how can all JWs meet Jesus? Is he travelling around?

You've only met Him in your imagination.