Does anyone else see the irony in our three denier engineers all saying that climate change "just happens"?

I don't believe you know the meaning of irony and if I show you a thousand examples you'd find an explanation making it OK so long as they fit into your ideals.

There's a reason for everything and when you stop claiming you were right when you were wrong people might start listening.

Yushi claims AGW predictions are right and links an article that claims they are right if you adjust for natural variability.

Irony, is liberals claiming only deniers are claiming catastrophe and deniers are stopping liberals from reducing fossil fuel use. I really love the hand wringing you guys made over the Paris agreement that basically says we have to allow developing countries to catch up before we actually stop climate change.

I'm in no way defending anyone who bases their model of the world on being ignorant, however, these engineers are not entirely wrong.

Our planet goes through cycles, as it has for since its creation. There are times of cooling... and times of warming. The great debate comes from the fact that people are either convinced that we have either nothing to do with the changing of our climates, or everything to do with it.

When we get down to it... what we are experiencing... it's likely a little of both. We have no way of ever truly knowing to what extent though.

I'm sure that you've heard people refer to a period of time in our not so distant past as the "last ice age". This was a time when the planet was going through a global cooling phase (ended about 11,700 years ago give or take). I'm sure there was a whole host of people debating about how man was to blame for the new warmer days for blasphemy and what not. We have been continuing upward. Yes, we have great advances in our ability to detect global trends on a broad scale... but we have absolutely NO idea if the period of time we currently inhabit... is interstadial or interglacial. How warm will our planet get before cooling back down?

We have been alive for an extremely short period of time relative to the lifespan of our planet. There is so much we don't yet know about our planet's ability to adapt to particular situations.

The truth of the situation is... we need to stop pointing fingers, and we need to do what we can to minimize our impact on the environment... REGARDLESS of if we know that we're actually changing our climate. We don't need the permission or approval of high ranking engineers to know that eventually, things will need to change. It's instinct... we need to be nice to our planet and we need to roll with whatever punches it throws at us.

I stopped drinking beverages when opening yahoo answers a long time ago.

In their mind they don't say it just happens, they say they don't know what causes most of the warming we are experiencing and they just know that it can't be CO2. Of course they might as well be saying "it just happens"

I love the argument "More energy hits the earth from the sun every HOUR than humans generate in a year" Which not only shows why increasing CO2 levels (by 42% already) is a bad idea, it also is a great way to promote solar.

Let the thumbs down begin...

I have never said that.

There is always a reason why things happen, our climate is a dynamic complicated chaotic system (according to the IPCC) there are many phenomena which cause changes, such as "he Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation – around 50 to 70 years, but unpredictable

the El Niño Southern Oscillation – 2 to 7 years

the Pacific decadal oscillation – 8 to 12 years? (not clear)

the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation – 15 to 30 years? (not clear)

the Arctic oscillation – no particular periodicity

the North Atlantic Oscillation – no particular periodicity

the North Pacific Oscillation – ?

the Hale cycle or sunspot cycle – about 11 years (may be discernible in climate records; see solar variation)

the Quasi-biennial oscillation – about 30 months."

Which makes predicting or even understanding our climate very difficult.

Blaming everything on CO2 is either incredibly stupid or purposely misleading.

clearly you don't know the sun is a million times bigger than the earth or that more energy hits the earth from the sun every HOUR than humans generate in a year