So if the same people who are putting out propaganda against Trump are the ones showing his approval ratings why should we take it seriously?

So if the same people who are putting out propaganda for Trump show his approval ratings, should we immediately take it seriously? I swear you people are ignorant. If FOX news said that he had a 100% approval rating and was God you would believe it. You exclaim liberals talking bad about you, "snowflakes", and FAKE NEWS, but in the end, you are just like them, hypocrites. Conservatives still talk bad about liberals, act like "snowflakes", and have FAKE NEWS on their side as well.

There's a couple of points here. For one thing, you may have a point that people should be skeptical of some of the poles. On the other hand, opinion polls are the only thing we really have to measure how well a president is doing. If we don't use opinion polls than all we're left with is individual people assuming that whatever they feel about the president is how the nation at large feels.

Second, I don't think it does conservatives any good to pretend that these polls are just complete nonsense. For one thing, the national level polls in 2016 ended up being pretty accurate. The final round of polls showed Clinton beating Trump by about 2 points. That's about where she ended up in the popular vote. Where the polls went wrong was in translating the popular vote into the Electoral College. They were wrong in several traditionally Democratic Midwestern states where scant polling was done because they were assumed to be safe. The same thing can be seen in the Alabama special election of 2017. Going into the election, most of the polls showed Roy Moore a couple points ahead of Doug Jones. In the end, Jones ended up winning the race by slightly over 1% and he dramatically outperform expectations in most parts of the state.

Third, these polls are mostly conducted by reputable polling organizations. Their ability to get work in the future is predicated on their ability to deliver accurate results. It doesn't do them any good to make up fake numbers. There may certainly be mistakes common even bias in these polls, but the idea that they are holy invented for political purposes doesn't make a lot of sense. Making up fake numbers could also backfire against a candidate. For example, in 2016, there seem to be a significant number of people who dislike Donald Trump but could not quite bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton. They felt safe and doing so because they assumed that Clinton would win the presidency. This attitude, which was based on poles assuming that Clinton would win, may have actually cost her the election by depressing her vote in several states which Trump ended up narrowly winning. Conversely, if a fake pole under rates a candidate support then that may become a self-fulfilling prophecy as people shy away from a candidate who is disliked.

I don't think that conservative Trump supporters do themselves any favors by pretending that the polls are all fake in that Trump and his policies are actually popular. If you want Trump in his agenda to succeed then he needs to do things which are popular among the American people and can continue getting him support. If you ignore the polls, then you are likely to mess up and do unpopular things which will cost you votes. Pretending that Trump is more popular than he is also risk setting you up for a rude awakening when that turns out not to be the case. If you pretend that Trump is more popular than he is then you are just going to be disappointed when he inevitably runs into a defeat, such as looks to be the case in the 2018 elections.

can't face the truth LOL if it was a democratic president you would say "the polls are spot on"

Yeah, you should. You should also take note that most polls prior to the Presidential election indicated that Trump had between a 20-35 percent chance to win the election, so you should have taken those seriously as well.

"The same poll system also said Trump didn't have a chance in the election. LOL"

The poll system said Clinton was more popular than Trump.

We had an election.

She was.

What's your question again?

The power structure of the left from their millionaire politicians to their millionaire donors to their millionaire media icons has been discredited and is no longer relevant

Agree, it's not reliable. If someone phoned me and asked for my political views, I would hang up. Republicans by demographic largely do not answer phone surveys.