Gay or not gay.?

Born gay, I remember back when I was 4 years-old putting my two male dolls to kiss and touching their genitals.

No one has a choice in the matter. We are all born with our sexual orientation. I cannot begin to describe how incredibly ignorant it is to think a person would choose to be gay. Even nowadays you have no guarantee that someone will not gladly cave your head in if you are gay.

Likely Born Gay as in a Birth Defect... It is likely CONGENITAL rather than actually Genetic. That is, an accidental hormone malfunction that alters the brain before birth. It usually is not noticed until puberty, when sexual attractions develop. ----But the defect always was there, but the pre puberty mind is not concerned with sexual attraction---so it is of no consequence before puberty.-------

There is also the possibility that Homosexuality may be simply a "Side symptom" of a much more "global" syndrome or defect.---Which may explain the fact that we often notice other "Strangeness" in the minds or physical builds in gays besides an attraction to the same sex. Society then "Latches onto" the homosexual thing, due to the taboo in many circles----This could be why Homosexuality is not considered "curable" as it is a symptoms of an un named syndrome rather than the primary defect itself. ----not unlike treating the cough of typhoid fever, and having no success, and not seeing or acknowledging the primary disease.----So homosexuality may not be the real subject at all, but only a symptom of something else.

I believe that homosexuals and heterosexuals have no choice in the matter. They are born with structure between their ears that makes their eventual sexuality inevitable, unless they suffer some trauma that damages their sexuality. Outside of injury or illness, there is no changing or choosing sexuality, for these people.

I believe this is true also for bisexuals. BUT as bisexuals grow up, their preference for same-sex or opposite-sex WILL be influenced by the experiences they live through. This sets the stage for the many people who believe, based on personal experience, that a person's sexuality can change or be deliberately chosen by them - and it explains why many people are sure they have deliberately chosen their sexuality, or have experienced it changing during their lifetime.

I believe their sexuality has not changed, or been chosen by them - they remain bisexual - but what they've experienced is a change of their PREFERENCE vis-a-vis same-sex or opposite sex relationships. Keep in mind, they might not KNOW that they are bisexual. I believe many bisexuals do not know they are bisexual, and consider themselves to be heterosexual or homosexual. In fact, I believe the vast majority of us ARE bisexual - but are happy with our first preference, and never change it, so we never have any reason to suspect that we have the potential to do so. Bisexuals cannot change their bisexuality, any more than a homosexual or a heterosexual can change their sexualities. But a bisexual can choose to change their preference for same-sex or opposite-sex relations, or can experience it changing by itself, due to living through various experiences.

I think that there are genetic/biological and psychosocial/environmental factors to sexuality and it can differ from person to person. I don't agree with people that say all gay people are born gay. In some cases it is far more obvious for a person that their upbringing or things that happened during their childhood influenced their sexuality. I don't mean to set this up as ammunition for people that think homosexuality is a choice, a child is not responsible for their environment so it is still not relevant it that tired old argument. Personally I can think of things about my childhood that might have had an impact on me but I can't really know for sure if there is a biological element for me as well and that is how I processed it. Ultimately it doesn't really matter because I'm not going to change who I am and couldn't even if I wanted to, which I don't.

I think being gay, lesbian, bisexual, heterosexual, transgender is something we develop when we are growing up

I don't know.

Quite frankly I'm not too concerned about why I or anyone else is gay. Maybe it's genetic or maybe it's developed at some point in the early years. Maybe both are possible. Even the best researchers on the subject can't say with complete certainty.

All? No. Most? Yes. I think a vast majority have felt this way forever, however, I do believe there is a such thing as circumstantial homosexuality (post sexual assault, post abuse by opposite sex, imprisonment, etc.)

I guess I'm in the middle; I believe sexuality and orientation is a complex issue, far beyond just a genetic inclination or a simple choice.

When it comes down to it I don't think it matters. Two people have a consensual relationship, it is nobody's business but their own. They should have the same rights as everyone else and be treated the way you treat everyone else.

If they are really gay then yes they are born gay, but not everything people are calling gay necessarily is. Being gay goes beyond simply having sex with the same sex, it's how the mind is emotionally wired to perceive of things and the world around them, that develops a personality that extends into sexuality. The personality can many times be observed in the things that gays do unconsciously that signals to you that they are gay which were aspect of their personality which existed and was observed since early childhood, in which it was in my case. There was never a time in life I could ever recall being attracted to women nor did I ever have sex with one. I find it repulsive. I of course did not know at an early age what it meant to have a sexual attraction towards men but the personality that would influence my sexuality as it developed was there.