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Bret "Hitman" Hart, "Dr. Death" Steve Williams, Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat or Nick Bockwinkle? Who was the better Pro Wrestler and why?
Based on all around in ring skills, who was the better Pro Wrestler in their prime:
(1) Bret "Hitman" Hart, (2) The late "Dr. Death" Steve Williams, (3) Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, or (4) The late Nick Bockwinkle?
I did some research and with an exception to Nick Bockwinkle, all had some form of amateur high school/college wrestling background (but I guess it would not matter being Nick was trained by Pro Wrestling greats Lou Thez and his father, Warren Bockwinkle).
They were all at one time the centerpiece and top champion (singles & tag team) for their promotions:
(1) Bret "Hitman" Hart: Bret Hart was a [6 time ] Stampede North American Heavyweight Champion, [5 time ] WWF/E World Champion, and [2 time] WCW World Champion, [2 time] WWF/E World Tag Team Champion, and [1 time] WCW World Tag Team Champion.
(2) The late "Dr. Death" Steve Williams: The late Steven Williams was [1 time] AJPW Triple Crown Heavyweight Champion, [2 time] UFW World Heavyweight Champion (1 for Bill Watts' version and 1 for Herb Abrams' version), [8 time] AJPW World Tag Team Champion, [1 time] NWA World Tag Team Champion, and [2 time] WCW World Tag Team Champion.
(3) Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat: Ricky Steamboat was a [1 time] NWA World Heavyweight Champion and [8 time] NWA/WCW World Tag Team Champion.
(4) Nick Bockwinkle: The late Nick Bockwinkle was a [4 time] AWA World Heavyweight Champion, [3 time] AWA World Tag Team Champion, and [2 time] NWA World Tag Team Champion.
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- CandleLv 73 years agoFavorite Answer
I'm a fan of 3 of the 4, but I'll try to remain unbiasd because I do see the merit and argument for all four. I'm going to make up 4 categories and see who covers he most.
1. Scientific Wrestling Ability: By this I mean who told the better stories in-ring all around, and who was the most diverse at telling a story in-ring. I think all four men are capable of this, but if two were lacking in the ability of telling a unique story every time they entered the ring, I'd argue Steamboat and Steve Williams were the two that weren't greats. Steamboat always had to play the disadvantaged underneath babyface who fights for his family against all odds. He never got the chance to play the veteran in control or the heel taking the dirty way out. Almost every time he was in the ring he was portrayed as the blue collar, blue chipper talent chasing the prize. While he can't be fully blamed for those circumstances, it could be argued that while he had great basics and some flash in his repertoire, he was never one to work a joint or target a body part for submission. Steve Williams is almost the opposite end of the spectrum. He worked face but he was arguably a better heel with brutish throws and charging strikes. As prolific of a big man as he might've been, from a work rate and storytelling perspective he was almost always the beastly final boss to overcome. Bret and Nick were good faces and even better heels. They could play babyface in peril, wily ring veteran, or straight up dick heels who relished in the idea of stretching their opponents. There was depth to them as performers and a believable humanity to them that allowed character evolution and change in styles.
2. In-Ring Legacy/Impact on the Business: All four men left an indelible mark in their own ways. Canadians are forever irrationally evil invaders applying sharpshooters because of Bret, and hoss wrestlers still whip out a 3 point stance, crazy collegiate suplexes, or a Oklahoma Stampede to this day. I'd go as far as to even say Lesnar to a degree is sort of a modern day Dr. Death, and watch New Japan and you'll see guys like Tomohiro Ishii or Togi Makabe who were clearly influenced by gaijin like Williams. Meanwhile in NXT, guys like Roderick Strong and Johnny Gargano are pulling out flashy moves and fighting for their family like Steamboat. Then there are silver tongued heels that pull out big dictionary words like Bockwinkel in promos to display mental superiority. Four way tie in this category, but if there were a weak link, I'd say it's Bockwinkel.
3. Classic Matches: Bockwinkel was the elder statesman of AWA, pulling out near hour long broadways to maintain his championship against the likes of Curt Hennig and Hulk Hogan before there was a Mr. Perfect or Hulkamania, not to mention his knock down, drag out, brutal encounters with Verne himself. Steve Williams rivalries are harder to pin down since he himself went unpinned for a decade. He was never really a big program guy in the US unless it was with Herb Abrahm's UWF where his main event rivalry wit Paul Ordorff constantly went to draws or no-contest. Like with Bockwinkel, despite the controversial booking they were still great matches, just not on a huge stage. Steamboat had his classics with Flair and his bout at Wrestlemania 3 with Savage, and Bret had great in-ring bouts with the likes of Steve Austin, Kevin Nash, Shawn Michaels, and even his own family members. I think Bret pulls ahead in this category, but with the caveat that while Bret was the glue that held those matches together, I feel like (excluding Nash), his opponents were usually better in-ring performers, and including Nash, bigger draws.
4. Drawing Power: While Bret was a byproduct of the WWF hype machine, he was still one of their lowest drawing headliners along with HBK. Steve William probably drew in Japan, and I'd go to a show solely for Dr. Death, but he was never really the 'guy'. Steamboat was likable and worked his *** off everywhere he went and the Mid-Atlantic territory loved him, but it never really translated on a global level. Nick Bockwinkel was a major main eventer in the eastern hemisphere of the US, making a name for himself in GCW and a legend of himself in AWA. There was arguably a time where AWA was the second biggest promotion in America where Bockwinkel was on top, and I'd argue he probably had more eyes on him through syndication than Bret did in some of his runs on top, but Bret probably wins this category.
Tallying up the categories, it's hard to argue against Bret as being the winner as much as I despise him. He was textbook as they could get, was a versatile performer, and made lasting impact on the industry. I think the same could be said of most of the names on this list, but it seems the biggest drawback for most was that there was always a bigger star there to overshadow them or some politicking that kept them away from the big time. None of these men are great talkers. Bockwinkel was good at his heel persona and Bret was too, but none of these guys ever got over with the gift of gab which is what should be taken away from this: These four got over with what they did in the ring. The fans loved, reviled, or rooted for them based on the story they told between the ropes and I think that kind of magic is lacking in a vast majority of US promotions these days and that's sad.
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