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question about lucifers fall (serious theology question)?
could lucifers fall the shooting star falling to earth be a reference to god giving intelligence to mankind (lucifer=lightbringer-light bulb above your head-good idea)things like farming, carpentry, civilization,reading, writing, math so on so forth please give me your thoughts on this new take that i've never seen or heard anywhere
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- yesmarLv 710 months agoFavorite Answer
I see no logic in that line of reasoning. Thanks for asking though, I’ve never heard that viewpoint before.
Source(s): Jesus follower - BelievethLv 510 months ago
"things like farming, carpentry, civilization,reading, writing, math" come from God not Lucifer. God created the Universe, math and science ect.
Lucifer would like to take credit for it though. What comes from Lucifer is lies and evil.
- Anonymous10 months ago
It's not a new take, but an age-old lie, where Lucifer is depicted as the light, and the one who brings enlightenment. While Lucifer was once a holy angel of God, a covering cherub next to the throne of God, the Bible explains that he became vain, and wanted to be like the Most High. The Scriptures tell us that God is the Light. When Lucifer rebelled against the Light, he became filed with darkness. Darkness is the absence of Light, and the children of Light are not the children of Ha'Satan (the Adversary), but of God. Everything that is created, music, math...etc... is the creation of God. We can make nothing, without using something that God Himself has made. The angels have more knowledge than we do regarding certain things, but they are the Creator, and they did not create math, humans...etc... all glory belongs to God, because honestly it is to Him which it is due to. And we should give credit where credit is due, and glory to where it is due. Humans now have to work our food, but the benefits of God in paradise, was free food, and you did not have to labor and toil just to get it. The weather was perfect, the world was not polluted, the animals lived in peace with humans.
The devil did not give to us, but he stole from us, even our connection to our greatest Gift, and the source of infinite knowledge, God Himself. The devil did not give enlightenment of Good, because Adam and Eve had direct access to the source of Good Himself, but what they did not have is corruption, and that is what the devil introduced, and honestly we can live without it. The depths of evil are great, but who wants to know how deep the imaginations of evil can extend? There is so much evil in the world that we are shielded from, and it is a shame to even speak of what some people take pleasure in, and the lovers of evil, are the children of hell. If you are a lover of righteousness and truth, God's plan is to saturate us with so much light, that no evil will be able to stand in its presence, as the darkness will be thoroughly extinguished by the light. The two do not exist together, as they are in opposition, but wherever the Light is, it is the Light that conquers and pierces through.
Darkness is not stronger than the light. The long suffering of God and the saints, is for the purpose of saving as many as possible, but the time is limited, and even Satan and the rest of the fallen angels are fully aware that their time is short, and also that they are not the ones who hold the victory. The devil is called a thief and a murderer, because that is the result of his mission, to ultimately separate us from our Maker, which makes Him our greatest foe, even the foe of the foolish who choose to follow him, instead of being loyal to the One who created them. In this world, we have trouble, suffering, and evil -- the result of the devil's rule. He cannot be like the most high, when he rejects the ways of God. You cannot be like God, and reject God's righteousness, truth...etc... all Satan can do is make poor counterfeits which are nothing like the genuine articles.
Even his life is dependent on the Life of God. If God did not exist, nothing would exist, and to be against our Maker is foolish, because He holds all things in His hands, and He is the ultimate Good guy. The devil does not hold the universe in his hands, and he is more of a destroyer of the things that are wholesome and good. To trade God for the devil is the poorest decision a person could make. It is worse than Esau trading away his birthright for a bowl of soup. The foolish repeat the same folly. Judas Iscariot hangs himself once he realized how foolish it was to sell out Jesus for some silver coins. Adam and Eve traded away a perfectly Good environment, and all the benefits they had with God, for choosing to agree with the devil over God, and picking one stupid piece of fruit, and trading away all their great benefits, just so they had to work to get some of those benefits backs, and always having to toil, and never obtaining what they had lost. It was a bad investment to choose the devil, and only Jesus fought to give us back our good inheritance. And regardless of whatever government system we have in place, none can produce a utopia, if unrighteousness is in charge, and that which is corrupt.
Jesus is the greatest inheritance, because He will be the One to make a utopia. And the counterfeiter, the fraudster Satan, the unholy angel, cannot create what is holy and righteous. He cannot come close to God's perfection, and do what God can do. And the Bible foretells Satan's downfall and the shock of people, realizing that this was the creature that created so much chaos, confusion...etc... in the world. While angels seem powerful to us, they are absolutely nothing, even all of them put together, when compared to the Creator.
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- ?Lv 610 months ago
Lucifer: Light Bearer and Morning Star
The term Lucifer is attributed to Satan as a name. The term has become personalised and has taken on a negative sense. Similarly, the term Morning Star has been attributed to Christ in a personalised fashion. When the Bible appears to refer to Satan as Day Star or Morning Star and to Christ as the Light-bearer, which is the sense of Lucifer, people apply the names in this personalised way and come to the wrong conclusion. Some have even gone to the extent of confusing Christ with Satan.
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- keyjonaLv 710 months ago
Lucifer, Satan, the Devil, beelzebub, Belial, and several other Sons of God, formed a gang called the Dragon(serpent); the serpent was not a snake. The Devil, whom Jesus called prince of this world, remains closest to earth as main representative of the Dragon.
God gave the Dragon Gang Billions of years to make these universes. The results was disastrous until Other Sons erected the sun and some progress(evolution) began millions of years ago.
The "fall" refers to Lucifer being replaced by EL as Lord.
- Anonymous10 months ago
NO....GOD GAVE INTELLIGENCE TO ADAM AND EVE IN THE VERY BEGINNING...SHOOTING stars have nothing to do with the devil who is now called Satan....the other name is what he had when he was sinless..