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'christians' are celebrating Saturnalia at the winter solstice -
Decorating the evergreen tree.
Holly and Ivy.
Tinsel.
Giving gifts.
Coloured lights.
Baubels.
13 Answers
- Doug CatholicLv 74 months ago
Excellent article explaining the true origins of the Christmas celebration here: https://tinyurl.com/y94kttyb
- dewcoonsLv 74 months ago
Since Christmas does not fall on the solstice, why would anyone think that it is a celebration of it? That is like thinking that celebrating New Years Day and MLK's Birthday are the same thing since they both fall in January.
Also a symbol means whatever they people who chose to use it decide what it means. For 2000 years the rainbow as been a symbol in the Christian faith (and 4000 years in the Jewish faith), but no one would claim that the Gay Prides Movement is celebrate the Christian faith because it uses the same symbol. That would be nonsense.
Which is what any claim that the celebration of the Mass in honor of the birth of Christ is a pagan holiday. No one yet has told me which pagan culture use to do that before the Christians came along.
- Anonymous4 months ago
Yes, they look like activities done by some people to celebrate traditional holidays during the December solstice.
If you want to make a point that Christmas is based on an early festival, that is old news.
- DavidLv 74 months ago
Christians are celebrating the birth of the Christ Child. Just the same as Mary and Joseph, Elizabeth and John the Baptist, shepherds and angels, Anna and Simeon, Magi, and the Hosts of Heaven itself. BTW, notice the question of the Magi-"Where is he who has been born King of the Jews?" Jesus was ALREADY a king the minute he was born. He didn't have to wait for his baptism, his crucifixion, or his resurrection to be acknowledged a King.
Christians celebrate the birth of that king. NOT Saturnalia.
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- RayalLv 74 months ago
Co-opting Pagan dates and festivals (minus some of the more bloodthirsty parts) has been a feature of the Christian conversion of the Pagan since at least Paul (the founder of "christianity") wanted the Greek speaking Pagans to "convert".
This continued both in the German and Britain conversions and most definitely in the New World.
Like most religious stuff it really doesn't matter and is just another cult/sect thing to argue about.
- Anonymous4 months ago
The Christmas tree itself is a pagan fertility symbol with the tree representing the phallus, The streamers are seminal fluid and the balls are what that are..
- ?Lv 74 months ago
Bringing evergreen branches indoors is a Germanic tradition rather than Roman. In the bronze age, people spent the winter huddled together in a round house with a fire in the middle. Evergreen branches helped to keep down the stench. Saturnalia is on December 17 and is typified by role reversals and cross-dressing. I could dress up as a Puritan and you could pretend to be a Christian.
- CarmenLv 54 months ago
It sounds like Christians celebrating Christmas.
Culture is not a static thing. It changes and evolves constantly. If you're going to tell me that 1500 years ago people were decorating trees with tinsel and colored lights to celebrate Saturnalia, I'm just going to roll my eyes. You are claiming traditions that were started in the past 200 years are ancient pagan rituals, bull. Gift giving is biblical, and not even restricted to the Bible. It's just something people do.
- Anonymous4 months ago
The winter solstice is December 21.
Christians are decorating in anticipation of Christmas, December 25.
Get over it.
- Anonymous4 months ago
thank GOD U R NOT THE JUDGE of anyone...MYOB