The universe cant from nothing(true nothing) their had to be a cause b4 the effect right? ?

the universe came from dark energy and the cause was an anomaly called the big bang singularity

Right.  All scientific experiments on the subject confirm that nothing comes from nothing.

Inferring the existence of an infinitely more complex 'creator' in order to explain the existence and complexity of the universe is redundant.

Our concepts of 'time' and 'eternity' are severely limited.  For example - the human mind is incapable of conceiving of 'billions of years', or 1/billionth of a second.

the universe is eternal - it was ALWAYS here. If you can't grasp that, it's just too bad; your shortcomings do not affect reality.

Lay off the brew, you are already sloppy drunk.

As we have no experience of "nothing", no-one can say that the universe came from "nothing". We do not know that "nothing" is even a possibility. Science has never claimed that the universe came from nothing. That is the view of religious fundamentalists, not scientists. If you want to propose a god to start things off then you have to explain where the god came from. If your god doesn't need a creator, why does the universe?

Things happen in quantum mechanics all the time with no cause.  Nothing actually doesn't even seem to be possible.  When you have a container with nothing in it, you still get quantum foam which is to say positive and negative particles popping in and out of existence on their own with no apparent cause and the only rule is they do it in equal amounts so the net is still zero

This cause a small, but still measurable force first predicted in the 20s and successfully measured in 1994 called the Casimir Effect.  We actually know it happens because it makes testable predictions.

No, there doesn't need to be a cause for "quantum fluctuations" and before and outside of this universe time does not exist.  Please ask physics questions in the physics section.

Let's cut to the chase then, a?

Who made your ridiculous god thingie, then?

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If you can explain a god without a creator,

You can explain a universe without a creator.

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There is real verifiable evidence for a universe;

There is NO verifiable evidence for a god critter.

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If you can explain a god without a creator,

You can explain a universe without a creator.

((there is actual verifiable evidence for a universe))

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EDIT

1. Yes, I know I repeated myself.

2. With NO evidence to support my idea, I reckon the universe has always existed in one form or another .. as in, all this may have happened billions of times before.

3. Yeah, pretty hard to get one's head around, a? 😎

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Science explains the big bang was not from nothing but from a singularity that was all the matter and energy in the universe compressed into a single point that then expanded rapidly!

So it was always here!

But why are Christians always claiming the big bang came from nothing? Are they that ignorant? Did they sleep through school or is it that they know the truth but think they can twist it because everyone is gullible?!

Claiming something cannot come from nothing argues not against the big bang but against creationists claims!

Recent research suggests the universe has contracted into a singularity and then expanded a number of times!